حوار يهودى مسيحى حول شخص المسيح ...

[apostle.paul]

The Messiah cannot trace his lineage through Jehoiakim, Jeconiah, or Shealtiel, because this royal line was cursed (I Chronicles 3:15-17; Jeremiah 22:18,30). But according to both Matthew 1:11-12 and Luke 3:27, Jesus was a descendant of Shealtiel.

Shealtiel is from david descendant

messiah not inherite Shealtiel
but the lord will give him the throne of his father David


as st.luke say in his gospel

He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David



jesus is from house of king david ,,​

 

[apostle.paul]

In Mark 8:35 jesus said: "...but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel’s the same shall save it."

How could Jesus have said this when there was no gospel when he lived?

The gospel did not appear until after his death

gospel is not book
gospel in greek εὐαγγέλιον(euangelion)
mean good news
gospel is the messish himself and his message to all people
good news of slavation
not written book

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[apostle.paul]

This gospel, i.e., the good news of the Lord’s death and resurrection (see also Mk 14:10, 11; Lk 22:3–6).http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1
http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1KJV Bible commentary. 1997, c1994 (1953). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

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[يهودى]

i read ur comments
till now i don find any proof in ur words
dat the messiah is jesus
!!!!

 

[fredyyy]

messiah is jesus
!!!!

messiah is jesus

هنا بكل وضوح

.

 

[apostle.paul]

i read ur comments
till now i don find any proof in ur words
dat the messiah is jesus

all messianic features applied to jesus strongly
in addition;jesus prove his messianic personality by miracles
he not only teach that he is messiah
he prove also by his miracles
so;your priests of israel delivered him to cross as they failed to face jesus and failed to convince the israel nation that jesus not amessiah

jesus walked to cross and the GOD the father of him raised him from death proving to us
that jesus you delivered to death
the death can't hold him

and prove by his Resurrection

that he is the LORD and THE MESSIAH


jesus said
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until you say, 'BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD



prophecy of jesus christ th son of the living GOD

is done

and your nation is scatered and your HOUSE became some of sands


your nation's glory is finished
and new house of the GOD is glorified


the church of the messiah !'".
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[apostle.paul]

till now u not give me astrong reason for yours rejection of jesus as amessiah


where yours sacrifices
where yours glories of your nation
God's chosen people
there isn't anything
israel is still wait Ghost​

 

[apostle.paul]

In that day there is an altar to Jehovah In the midst of the land of Egypt, And a standing pillar near its border to Jehovah



where ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
where is this altar of jehovah in midst of land of egypt
the altar is our christian altar
the messiah altar in our land
egypt
not yours ancient altar of solomon in Jerusalem

,​

 

[يهودى]

The Messiah brings about an end to all forms of idolatry
(Zechariah 13:2)
The Messiah leads the world to become vegetarian
(Isaiah 11:6-9)
Eventually the dead will be resurrected
(Isaiah 26:19; Daniel 12:2; Ezekiel 37:12-13; Isaiah 43:5-6)
The nations of the earth will recognize that they have been wrong, that the Jews have been right, and that the sins of the Gentile nations, their persecutions and the murders they committed, have been borne by the Jewish people
(Isaiah 53)
All weapons will be destroyed
(Ezekiel 39:9,12)


where are u jesus to do all this ???!!!!!!!!!!

The Messiah rebuilds The Temple (Isaiah 2:2; Ezekiel 37:26-28)
The Nile will run dry (Isaiah 11:15)
Monthly, the trees of Israel will yield their fruit (Ezekiel 47:12);
Each tribe of Israel will receive and settle their inherited land (Ezekiel 47:13-13);
The nations of the earth will recognize that they have been wrong, that the Jews have been right, and that the sins of the Gentile nations, their persecutions and the murders they committed, have been borne by the Jewish people (Isaiah 53)


all my words

prove that jesus was not the messiah
and messiah will come soon

 

[يهودى]

In that day there is an altar to Jehovah In the midst of the land of Egypt, And a standing pillar near its border to Jehovah



where ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
where is this altar of jehovah in midst of land of egypt
the altar is our christian altar
the messiah altar in our land
egypt
not yours ancient altar of solomon in Jerusalem

,​

haha .. really !!
i want to ask u
how abut the lights of mary u see always .. ha tell me ??
i wanna really to know

 

[apostle.paul]

no my friend
it isn't adiscussion
you must reply on our proves
then we discuss your negative evidence-if there- aganist jesus to be a messiah to reach aresult
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[apostle.paul]

how abut the lights of mary u see always .. ha tell me ??

not our topic
i ask you about altar of jehovah in midst of the land of egypt

i wanna really to know

no
i who need to know
where's this altar of jehovah in our land egypt
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[يهودى]

not our topic
i ask you about altar of jehovah in midst of the land of egypt

no
i who need to know
where's this altar of jehovah in our land egypt
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who tell u dat i just kidn u
!!!!!!!!!!!!
i ask u abut sumthing happen in ur country
n u ask me abut ur country too
!!
who musta answer the other ..

anyway .. as u like
don reply n so i ll

 

[jesus_son012]

الله يسامحكم
اتكلموا عربى
تسجيل متابعة

 

[++ كيرلس ++]

haha .. really !!
i want to ask u
how abut the lights of mary u see always .. ha tell me ??
i wanna really to know

Your style in answering, my dear, makes me believe more and more that you are here not to answer serious questions, but to pick some words and play with them. Except your ignorance of our holy Christian faith (seen by everybody here BTW), you didn't answer almost anything at all!!! How old are you my brother? if you are not able to answer questions why did you accept to do? WHAT DO THE LIGHTS OF THE HOLY MOTHER MARY THE QUEEN OF YOUR JEWISH NATION HAD TO DO WITH OUR CONVERSATION HERE???!!! and where are you answers to my questions here: 24 and 26??

God Bless​

 

[apostle.paul]

i ask u abut sumthing happen in ur country
n u ask me abut ur country too

mary not a messiah
we saw lights or not
it isn't your business
and i will not discuss anything about her with you who believe in talmud and you know what talmud
i discuss about altar of jehovah in midst land of egypt as in isaiah prophecy
where???????????
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[apostle.paul]

question to you
moses the prophet write in GENESIS
בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ׃
bara elohiem
HOW.........
how the one GOD of israel called elohiem in plural
and take verbs in singular (bara


how
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[يهودى]

mary not a messiah
we saw lights or not
it isn't your business
and i will not discuss anything about her with you who believe in talmud and you know what talmud
i discuss about altar of jehovah in midst land of egypt as in isaiah prophecy
where???????????
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ok man
i see dat discussion between us comes to end
and u say dat not my business .. ok as u like
my answer to ur question is not ur business too .. its mine
and ll keep it 4 maself
u r free n me too

well..i want to thank u 4 ur time u waste here

n sorry if i disturb u

 

[apostle.paul]

my answer to ur question is not ur business too .. its mine
and ll keep it 4 maself

as you havn't any answer
thanx my dear
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[++ كيرلس ++]

Kindergarten? you don't know the A B C of conversations, mr. Jew. we are talking here, if you still don't know, about a specific subject which is: Is Jesus The messiah or not? The lights in Eygpt or anything else are not included in that subject. Find for us a grown-up jewish Rabbi to discuss with. Thanks

Peace for you​