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الرسالة: [QUOTE="raed, post: 41178, member: 1147"] عزيزي نيومان نتيجة ايقافي حتى شهر 9/2006 من قبل الادارة زورا وبهتانا ، فانني ساحاورك الان تحت نفس الاسم ولكن باللغة الانجليزية. لا مانع لدي من استخدام اي نص وباي لغة ، مع العلم انك لم تجب على اسئلتي المباشرة ، ولن اعيدها عليك لانني لن احصل منك على رد عليها لانك اكتشفت خطاك بنفسك وصعب عليك الاعتراف بالخطأ. اما النص يوحنا 17 : 3 كما جاء في اكثر من ترجمة هو كما يلي: اللغة العربية وهذه هي الحياة الابدية ان يعرفوك انت الاله الحقيقي وحدك [U][SIZE=4]ويسوع المسيح الذي ارسلته[/SIZE][/U]. النص واضح ان الله ارسل رسوله المسيح عليه السلام ، وبالتالي لا يمكن ان يكون الله هو نفسه المسيح ، لان هناك مُرْسِلْ وهو الله ، ومُرْسَلْ وهو المسيح عليه السلام. اللغة الانجليزية asv And this is life eternal, that they should know thee the only true God, and him [U]whom thou didst send, even Jesus Christ[/U]. [IMG]http://scripturetext.com/bbe.gif[/IMG] And this is eternal life: to have knowledge of you, the only true God, [U]and of him whom you have sent, even Jesus Christ[/U]. [IMG]http://scripturetext.com/dby.gif[/IMG] And this is the eternal life, that they should know thee, the only true God, [U]and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. [/U] [IMG]http://scripturetext.com/kjv.gif[/IMG] And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, [U]and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. [/U] [IMG]http://scripturetext.com/wey.gif[/IMG] And in this consists the Life of the Ages--in knowing Thee the only true God [U]and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent[/U]. [IMG]http://scripturetext.com/wbs.gif[/IMG] And this is life eternal, that they may know thee the only true God, [U]and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. [/U] [IMG]http://scripturetext.com/web.gif[/IMG] This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, [U]and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ[/U]. [IMG]http://scripturetext.com/ylt.gif[/IMG] and this is the life age-during, that they may know Thee, the only true God, and him [U]whom Thou didst send -- Jesus Christ;[/U] جميع النصوص السابقة تدل على ان الله هو المُرْسِلْ والمسيح هو المُرْسَلْ. راجع قواعد اللغة الانجليزية بالنسبة المبني للمجهول passive اما باللغة اليونانية [LEFT][IMG]http://scripturetext.com/byz.gif[/IMG] αυτη δε εστιν η αιωνιος ζωη ινα γινωσκωσιν σε τον μονον αληθινον θεον και ον απεστειλας ιησουν χριστον [/LEFT] [IMG]http://scripturetext.com/gtr.gif[/IMG] αυτη δε εστιν η αιωνιος ζωη ινα γινωσκωσιν σε τον μονον αληθινον θεον και ον απεστειλας ιησουν χριστον [IMG]http://scripturetext.com/gti.gif[/IMG] αυτη δε εστιν η αιωνιος ζωη ινα γινωσκωσιν σε τον μονον αληθινον θεον και ον απεστειλας ιησουν χριστον [IMG]http://scripturetext.com/gwh.gif[/IMG] αυτη δε εστιν η αιωνιος ζωη ινα γινωσκωσιν σε τον μονον αληθινον θεον και ον απεστειλας ιησουν χριστον اما معاني هذه الكلمات بما يقابلها بالانجليزي هي كما يلي : [FONT=Arial][B]αυτη [/B][I]demonstrative pronoun - nominative singular feminine[/I][/FONT] [FONT=Arial]the he (she or it), i.e. this or that (often with article repeated) -- he (it was that), hereof, it, she, such as, the same, these, they, this (man, same, woman), which, who.[/FONT] [FONT=Arial][/FONT] [B]δε [/B][I]conjunction[/I] but, and, etc. -- also, and, but, moreover, now (often unexpressed in English). [B]εστιν [/B][I]verb - present indicative - third person singular [/I] he (she or it) is; also (with neuter plural) they are [B]η [/B][I]definite article - nominative singular feminine[/I] the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom) -- the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc. [B]αιωνιος [/B][I]adjective - nominative singular feminine[/I] perpetual (also used of past time, or past and future as well) -- eternal, for ever, everlasting, world (began). [B]ζωη [/B][I]noun - nominative singular feminine[/I] life -- life(-time). [B]ινα [/B][I]conjunction[/I] in order that (denoting the purpose or the result) -- albeit, because, to the intent (that), lest, so as, (so) that, (for) to. [B]γινωσκωσιν [/B][I]verb - present active subjunctive - third person [/I] to know (absolutely) in a great variety of applications and with many implications (as follow, with others not thus clearly expressed) [B]σε [/B][I]personal pronoun - second person accusative singular[/I] thee -- thee, thou, thy house [SIZE=5][U][B]τον [/B][I]definite article - accusative singular masculine[/I] the definite article; the (sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted, in English idiom) -- the, this, that, one, he, she, it, etc[/U][/SIZE]. [SIZE=7]انت[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][U][B]μονον [/B][I]adjective - accusative singular masculine[/I] remaining, i.e. sole or single; by implication, mere -- alone, only, by themselves[/U][/SIZE]. [I][SIZE=6]وحدك [/SIZE][/I] [I][SIZE=6][/SIZE][/I] [B][SIZE=5][U]αληθινον [/U][/SIZE][/B][SIZE=5][U][I]adjective - accusative singular masculine [/I]truthful -- true[/U][/SIZE] [U][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/U] [SIZE=6]الحقيقي[/SIZE] [SIZE=6][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][U][B]θεον [/B][I]noun - accusative singular masculine[/I] a deity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very -- exceeding, God, god(-ly, -ward[/U][/SIZE] [U][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/U] [SIZE=5][SIZE=6]الاله[/SIZE] [/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]فلو قمنا بتجميع هذه الترجمة لاصبحت ( انت الاله الحقيقي وحدك) ، وهذا هو الشق الاول من النص.[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [B]και [/B][I]conjunction[/I] and, also, even, so then, too, etc.; often used in connection (or composition) with other particles or small words [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [B]ον [/B][I]relative pronoun [/I] the relatively (sometimes demonstrative) pronoun, who, which, what, that -- one, (an-, the) other, some, that, what, which, who(-m, -se), etc. [SIZE=4]في السابق يمهد ليحدثنا عن شخص آخر ، كيف ذلك وما الدليل ؟ اليك الدليل يا نيومان :[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][U][B]απεστειλας [/B][I]verb - aorist active indicative - second person singular [/I] [/U][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]set apart, i.e. (by implication) to send [U]out (properly, on a mission) literally or figuratively -- put in, send (away, forth, out), set (at liberty[/U]).[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][U]يرسل شخص آخر مفرد ، من هو يا نيومان ؟[/U][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][B]ιησουν [/B][I]noun - accusative singular masculine[/I] Jesus (i.e. Jehoshua), the name of our Lord and two (three) other Israelites -- Jesus.[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][B]χριστον [/B][I]noun - accusative singular masculine[/I] anointed, i.e. the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus -- Christ. [/SIZE] [SIZE=5]اعتقد ان الموضوع اصبح الان واضح لك يا نيومان ولكل النصارى ان الله ليس هو نفسه المسيح لان الله ارسل شخصا آخر منفرد .[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]تحياتي[/SIZE] [SIZE=5] [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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