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الرسالة: [QUOTE="apostle.paul, post: 3044560, member: 85886"] [COLOR="Black"][FONT="Arial Black"][SIZE="5"][COLOR=Blue][SIZE=5][FONT=Arial Narrow][B]نستكمل مع المدلس باحتراف المسمى على الريس حفظه الله-طويل العمر يزهز عمره هيهياه- ويتكمل العفونة العلمية الحادة ويقول [/B][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][CENTER][COLOR=Blue][SIZE=5][FONT=Arial Narrow][B] لا اعلم ما هى المعلومة التى خرجنا بيها من هذا الكلام؟؟؟؟؟ [/B][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/CENTER] [COLOR=Blue][SIZE=5][FONT=Arial Narrow][B]طيب حلو وانا مش معترض الا على نقطة واحدة ان فى امور علمها المسيح لتلاميذه ولكل المؤمنين فى كل العصور ومنهم التلاميذه لكن يكمل ويقول [/B][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [B]للتلاميذ ولكل العالم الى نهاية الدهور والمفاجاة يا اخواتى ان هنا انتهى اعترضه ولم يضيف شيئا اعتقد انك قريت هذا الكلام من قبل [FONT=Century Gothic][SIZE=5][COLOR=Blue]4 وَفِيمَا هُوَ مُجْتَمِعٌ مَعَهُمْ أَوْصَاهُمْ أَنْ لاَ يَبْرَحُوا مِنْ أُورُشَلِيمَ، بَلْ يَنْتَظِرُوا «مَوْعِدَ الآبِ الَّذِي سَمِعْتُمُوهُ مِنِّي، 5 لأَنَّ يُوحَنَّا عَمَّدَ بِالْمَاءِ، وَأَمَّا أَنْتُمْ فَسَتَتَعَمَّدُونَ بِالرُّوحِ الْقُدُسِ، لَيْسَ بَعْدَ هذِهِ الأَيَّامِ بِكَثِيرٍ».[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B]فلماذا لم تذكره واخدت تتدلس على البشر دون حياء؟؟؟؟؟ ولمااذ لم تذكر الاتى؟؟؟؟؟[/B] [FONT=Century Gothic][SIZE=5][COLOR=Blue][B]1 وَلَمَّا حَضَرَ يَوْمُ الْخَمْسِينَ كَانَ الْجَمِيعُ مَعًا بِنَفْسٍ وَاحِدَةٍ،[/B] [B]2 وَصَارَ بَغْتَةً مِنَ السَّمَاءِ صَوْتٌ كَمَا مِنْ هُبُوبِ رِيحٍ عَاصِفَةٍ وَمَلأَ كُلَّ الْبَيْتِ حَيْثُ كَانُوا جَالِسِينَ،[/B] [B]3 وَظَهَرَتْ لَهُمْ أَلْسِنَةٌ مُنْقَسِمَةٌ كَأَنَّهَا مِنْ نَارٍ وَاسْتَقَرَّتْ عَلَى كُلِّ وَاحِدٍ مِنْهُمْ.[/B] [B]4 وَامْتَلأَ الْجَمِيعُ مِنَ الرُّوحِ الْقُدُسِ، وَابْتَدَأُوا يَتَكَلَّمُونَ بِأَلْسِنَةٍ أُخْرَى كَمَا أَعْطَاهُمُ الرُّوحُ أَنْ يَنْطِقُوا.[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=Black][B]فلماذا لم تذكر ان الوعد قد تحقق بالفعل لتلاميذ المسيح بعد 10 ايام من صعود المخلص فى يوم الخمسين لقيامته المجيدة؟؟؟؟؟؟ لماذا لم تذكر هذين الامرين يا خواف؟؟؟؟؟ 1-الوعد كان لتلاميذ المسيح 2-ان الوعد تحقق بعد 50 يوم من قيامة السيد من بين الاموات فانتهت امالك التدليسية على صخرة كتابنا المقدس والوعد تحقق ولا مكان لرسول الدبان فى كتابنا الالهى الوحيد على ظهر الكرة الارضية [/B][/COLOR][LEFT][B][FONT=Book Antiqua]the Promise of the Father was the promise of baptism in the Holy Spirit. There are seven references in ******ure to baptism in the Spirit. Five are prophetic (v. 5; Matt. 3:11; Mark 1:8; Luke 3:16; John 1:33); one is historical (11:15, 16), [U][COLOR=Blue]r[/COLOR][COLOR=Blue]eferring to the Day of Pentecost; and one is doctrinal ([/COLOR][/U][U][COLOR=Blue]1 Cor. 12:13[/COLOR][/U][U][COLOR=Blue]), explaining the meaning of baptism in the Spirit[/COLOR][/U].[URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1"][/URL][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Book Antiqua][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1"][/URL][/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Book Antiqua]Radmacher, E. D., Allen, R. B., & House, H. W. (1999). [I]Nelson's new illustrated Bible commentary[/I] (Ac 1:4). Nashville: T. Nelson Publishers[/FONT][/B]. [/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Book Antiqua][/FONT][/B][FONT=Book Antiqua][U][COLOR=Blue][B]Yes, [/B][B]the fulfillment of that [/B][B]Promise of the Father would occur in [/B][/COLOR][/U][B][U][COLOR=Blue]Jerusalem[/COLOR][/U][U][COLOR=Blue]. The coming of the Spirit would take place in the very city where the Savior had been crucified.[/COLOR][/U] The presence of the Spirit there would bear testimony to man’s rejection of the Son of God.[URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1"][/URL] [/B][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][B][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1"][/URL][/B][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][B]MacDonald, W., & Farstad, A. (1997, c1995). [I]Believer's Bible Commentary : Old and New Testaments[/I] (Ac 1:4). Nashville: Thomas Nelson[/B][/FONT]. [FONT=Book Antiqua][B] [/B][B]Wait for the promise of the Father. Much ink has been used attempting to explain these five words, [/B][B]the promise of the Father. Various passages of ******ure make it clear that the promise of the Father (Joel 2:28; Acts 2:16) and also the promise of the Son (Jn 14:16, 26; 15:26; 16:7) [U][COLOR=Blue]were references to the arrival of the Holy Spirit of God[/COLOR][/U].[URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1"][/URL] [/B][/FONT] [FONT=Book Antiqua][B][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1"][/URL][/B][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][B][I]KJV Bible commentary[/I]. 1997, c1994 (2128). Nashville: Thomas Nelson[/B][/FONT]. [FONT=Arial Narrow][B]Now that promise was about to be kept. However, the disciples did not know the specific time when it would happen, nor did they know what else they would need to do before it came. [U][COLOR=Blue]All they needed to do was to trust the words of their Lord and wait to be baptized with the Holy Spirit, an event that would happen a few days later[/COLOR][/U] ([/B][/FONT][FONT=Arial Narrow][B]1:5).[URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1"][/URL] [/B][/FONT] [FONT=Arial Narrow][B][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1"][/URL][/B][/FONT][FONT=Arial Narrow][B]Adeyemo, T. (2006). [I]Africa Bible commentary[/I] (1326). Nairobi, Kenya; Grand Rapids, MI.: WordAlive Publishers; Zondervan[/B][/FONT]. [FONT=Century Gothic][B]Now that promise was about to be kept. However, the disciples did not know the specific time when it would happen, nor did they know what else they would need to do before it came. All they needed to do was to trust the words of their Lord and wait to be baptized with the Holy Spirit, an event that would happen a few days later ([/B][/FONT][FONT=Century Gothic][B]1:5).[URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1"][/URL] [/B][/FONT] [FONT=Century Gothic][B][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1"][/URL][/B][/FONT][FONT=Century Gothic][B]Adeyemo, T. (2006). [I]Africa Bible commentary[/I] (1326). Nairobi, Kenya; Grand Rapids, MI.: WordAlive Publishers; Zondervan[/B][/FONT]. [RIGHT] [B]وقد تحقق وعد الاب فى مدينة اورشليم بعد 10 ايام من صعود سيدنا وملكنا والهنا يسوع المسيح وحل روح الله على تلاميذه الاطهار على هيئة السنة نار ولا دخل لهذا الجاهل المسمى ابن امنة فى وعد الاب بحلول روح الله على المؤمنين وتحقيق الوعد لتلاميذه ورسله [/B][LEFT][B][COLOR=Blue]يقول القديس يوحنا ذهبى الفم[/COLOR][/B] [B][FONT=Century Gothic] [/FONT][/B] [LEFT][FONT=Century Gothic][B]He ordered them not to leave Jerusalem.” Why? Just as when soldiers are about to charge a multitude, no one thinks of letting them issue forth until they have armed themselves, or as horses are not allowed to start from the barriers until they have got their charioteer, likewise Christ did not allow them to appear in the field before the descent of the Spirit, so that they would not be easily defeated and taken captive by the many. Homilies on the Acts of the Apostles 1.[URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1"]28[/URL][/B][/FONT][/LEFT] [FONT=Century Gothic][B][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn2"][/URL] [/B][/FONT] [FONT=Century Gothic][B][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1"]28 [/URL]NPNF 1 11:6**.[/B][/FONT] [FONT=Century Gothic][B][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref2"][/URL][/B][/FONT][FONT=Century Gothic][B]Martin, F., & Smith, E. (2006). [I]Acts[/I]. Ancient Christian Commentary on ******ure NT 5 (4). Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press[/B][/FONT]. [/LEFT] [B][COLOR=Blue]ويقول القديس هيلارى اسقف بواتيه عن موعد الاب بحلول روح الله على التلاميذ والمؤمنين [/COLOR][/B][LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Century Gothic]He orders them to await the promise of the Father, which has been heard from his mouth. Certainly, the discourse even now[URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1"]33[/URL] is concerned with the promise of his Father. Consequently, the manifestation of the Spirit is through the effects which these powers produce. [Awaiting the promise of the Father,] the gift of the Spirit is not hidden where there is the word of wisdom and where the words of life are heard. The effects of the powers produced by the Spirit are not fully manifest where there is the [rational] perception of the divine knowledge in order that we may not be like the animals, unaware of the author of our life through our ignorance of God, nor even through our faith in God in order that we may not be outside the gospel of God by not believing the gospel of God. The Spirit is not manifested only through the gift of healing in order that by the cure of infirmities we may render testimony to the grace of him who has granted these gifts; or through the performance of miracles in order that the power of God may be recognized in what we are doing; or through prophecy in order that through our knowledge of the doctrine it may be known that we have been taught by God; or through the distinguishing of spirits in order that we may perceive whether anyone speaks through a holy or an evil spirit; or through the various kinds of languages in order that the sermons in these languages may be offered as a sign of the Holy Spirit who has been given; or in the interpretation of the languages in order that the faith of the hearers might not be endangered through ignorance, since the interpreter of a language makes it intelligible for those who are not familiar with the language. Rather it is through all the diversities of these gifts that the effects of the Spirit are poured out for the profit of everyone. On the Trinity 8.30.[URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn2"]34[/URL][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Century Gothic][COLOR=#000080]1:5[/COLOR] [I]Bapt[/I][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [B][FONT=Century Gothic][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn3"][/URL][/FONT] [/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Century Gothic][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1"]33 [/URL]Acts 1:8.[/FONT][/B] [/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Century Gothic][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref2"]34 [/URL]FC 25:298–99*.[/FONT][/B] [/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Century Gothic][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref3"][/URL]Martin, F., & Smith, E. (2006). [I]Acts[/I]. Ancient Christian Commentary on ******ure NT 5 (5). Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press[/FONT][/B][/LEFT] . [COLOR=Blue][B]استاذ على الريس انت تعلم انك مدلس وتعلم جيدا بانك تقول كلام تافه بابسط الطرق نستطيع كشفه فرجاءا كف عن التدليس والتفاهات وفكر فى ابديتك كويس اتمنى انك تفكر بدل ان تدلس [/B][/COLOR] [/RIGHT] [/LEFT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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