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الرسالة: [QUOTE="فادي الكلداني, post: 3537489, member: 108978"] [CENTER][FONT=Trebuchet MS][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5]The question is, is this scenario plausible[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [SIZE=5][FONT=Trebuchet MS][FONT=Arial]First of all, at the time the second temple was built, Jews were [/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt3303.htm"][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5]scattered[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5] throughout the Persian Empire. If they had no single Torah scroll, but rather various different traditions and texts passed down over the previous thousand years, it is hard to imagine Ezra succeeding in presenting a single, never before seen scroll. In recent times, this might be comparable to the story of [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith%2C_Jr."][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5]Joseph Smith[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5], who attempted to present Christians with a sort of “third testament” in the Book of Mormon. Some people did follow him, however most Christians were outraged by his claims. He survived only 15 years before being murdered by a mob. In contrast, we know of no trace of dissent in regards to the Torah and there is no reference anywhere to any earlier ********s. In fact, Ezra is never depicted as publishing a new text; rather the Jews ask him to read an apparently well known Torah of Moses. Note how much [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabees"][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5]difficulty[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5] the Greeks soon afterwards had when they attempted to impose religious innovations on the Jews.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=5][FONT=Arial]Secondly, surely the [/FONT][/SIZE][URL="http://jewishphilosopher.blogspot.com/2006/11/samaritan-pentateuch-support-for.html"][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5]Samaritans[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5], the Jews' [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt35a04.htm"][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5]enemies[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5], would never have accepted Ezra's scroll.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=5][FONT=Arial]Thirdly, the contents of the Torah are bizarre if Ezra wrote it. Jerusalem and its Temple are unmentioned, while the Tabernacle in the Wilderness, no longer of any practical relevance, is written about at [/FONT][/SIZE][URL="http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0225.htm"][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5]great length[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5].[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=5][FONT=Arial]Considering the fact that the Samaritans accept the Torah and the Torah does not mention Jerusalem, this would seem to date the Torah from the time of [/FONT][/SIZE][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_%28Bible%29"][COLOR=windowtext][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5]Samuel[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/URL][FONT=Arial][SIZE=5] at the latest, or only 400 years after the Exodus. And if that is the case, how could the Jewish people have been convinced that such incredible miracles happened only a few centuries earlier if they in fact had not?[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=5][FONT=Arial]Similar to evolution being an atheistic attempt to explain life’s development because “where else could it have come from”, the idea of Ezra writing the Torah based on earlier ********s is equally hard to believe although secularists must accept it since they have no better choice.[/FONT][/SIZE] [URL]http://www.blogger.com/profile/17987540457195983665[/URL][/FONT][/CENTER] [/QUOTE]

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