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الرسالة: [QUOTE="cross in ksa, post: 988097, member: 45614"] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]هههههههههههههههههههههههه هذا فى راى اكبر افلاس فى العالم [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"] نأتى لم قلته وان كنت انت لم تقل اى شئ الى الان سوى كلام بلا دليل[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]اولا ان مداخلتى طويله وانا اعرف انك حتى لم تقرئها لذا لم ترد عليها [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]انا اعلم تماما الشعور الذى تمر به [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]G3816 παῖς pais paheece Perhaps from G3817; a boy (as often beaten with impunity), or (by analogy) a girl, and (generally) a child; specifically slave or servant (especially a minister to a king; and by eminence to God): - child, maid (-en), (man) servant, son, young man.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"]الكلمه لها معانى كثيره حضرتك مسكت فى القشه لكى تنجو وهى كلمه slave ولكن بنعمه المسيح سنرد على هذه الكلمه [/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"] son, young man.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]طبعا حضرتك لم تستطيع ان تقرا هذه الكلمات [/FONT][/SIZE] .. [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]جهل حضرتك يفضحك هل انت متاكد ان قرات مداخلتى لانك لو قراتها لما قلت هذا الكلام [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]سأدعك فى عماك لكى يرى القارىء ويضحك [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"] طبعا حضرتك لم تستطيع ان تأخذ التفاسير وتناقشنى لانك لم تقرئها اصلن ولكن انا حبيت ابين كذبك وتدليسك حضرتك اصلن لو قرأت مداخلتى كنت ستعرف ان المفسرين نسفوا شبهتك [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]نأتى لكلمه عبد هل هى تعنى بأن المسيح ليس الله [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]يا عزيزى المسيح قال عن نفسه اكثر من ذلك[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]Mat 20:28 كما أن ابن الإنسان لم يأت ليخدم بل ليخدم وليبذل نفسه فدية عن كثيرين».[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"] طوبى لاولئك العبيد الذين اذا جاء سيدهم يجدهم ساهرين.الحق اقول لكم انه يتمنطق ويتكئهم ويتقدم ويخدمهم.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]فا المسيح جاء ليخدم حتى العبيد ولكن هل هذا يقلل منه ؟؟؟[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]المسيح قال انه جاء ليخدم وليس يخدم فقط بل ليبذل نفسه عن العبيد [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]ههههه طبعا حضرتك هتتصدم يمكن حضرتك متعرفش يعنى ايه تضحيه [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]مت 20 : 28 كانت الفدية هي المبلغ الذي يدفع لتحرير عبد رقيق من العبودية، وكثيرا ما ذكر الرب يسوع لتلاميذه أنه لابد أن يموت، ولكنه هنا يبين لهم لماذا ينبغي أن يموت، ليفدي جميع الناس من عبودية الخطية والموت. كان التلاميذ يظنون أنه مادام يسوع حيا، فإنه يقدر أن يخلصهم، ولكنه أعلن لهم أنه لا يخلصهم هم والعالم سوى موته.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]BBE) Even as the Son of man did not come to have servants, but to [COLOR="Magenta"]be a servant,[/COLOR] and to give his life for the salvation of men. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"] (CEV) The Son of Man did not come to be a [COLOR="Red"]slave[/COLOR] master, but a slave who will give his life to rescue many people. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"](EMTV) just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to [COLOR="Orange"]serve,[/COLOR] and to give His life as a ransom for many." [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"][COLOR="Black"]Mat 20:28 Even as the son of man,.... Meaning himself, the seed of the woman, the son of Abraham, and of David, according to the flesh; and whom he proposes as an example of humility, and as an argument to draw them off from their ambitious views of worldly grandeur, and from all thoughts of the Messiah's setting up a temporal kingdom; since he came not to be ministered unto by others; to be attended on in pomp and state, to have a numerous retinue about him, waiting upon him, and ministering to him; as is the case of the princes, and great men of the world; though he is Lord of all, and King of kings; but to minister; in the form of a servant unto others, going about from place to place to do good, both to the bodies and souls of men: he "came" forth from his Father, down from heaven, into this world, by his assumption of human nature, to "minister" in the prophetic office, by preaching the Gospel, and working miracles, in confirmation of it; and in the priestly office, one branch of which is expressed in the next clause, and to give his life a ransom for many: what he came to give was his life, which was his own, and than which nothing is more dear and precious: besides, his life was an uncommon one, being not only so useful to men, and entirely free from sin in itself, but was the life of the man Jesus, who is in union with the Son of God: this he came to "give", and did give into the hands of men, to the justice of God, and death itself; which giving, supposes it to be his own, and at his own disposal; was not forfeited by any act of his, nor was it forced from him, but freely laid down by him; and that as a "ransom", or redemption price for his people, to deliver them from the evil of sin, the bondage of Satan, the curses of a righteous law, from eternal death, and future wrath, and, in short, from all their enemies: which ransom price was paid "for" them in their room and stead, by Christ, as their substitute; who put himself in their legal place, and laid himself under obligation to pay their debts, and clear their scores, and redeem them from all their iniquities, and the evil consequences of them: and this he did "for many"; for as many as were ordained to eternal life; for as many as the Father gave unto him; for many out of every kindred, tongue, and people, and nation; but not for every individual of human nature; for many are not all.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"](BBE) For which is greater, the guest who is seated at a meal or the servant who is waiting on him? is it not the guest? but I am among you as a servant. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE="5"][FONT="Arial Black"]ياريت يبقى حضرتك تناقش بطريقه اكاديميه وتاخد كلامى وتفنده [/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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