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الرسالة: [QUOTE="apostle.paul, post: 2988367, member: 85886"] [COLOR="Black"][FONT="Arial Black"][SIZE="5"][COLOR=Black][FONT=Arial Black][SIZE=5][COLOR=Blue][SIZE=5][FONT=Book Antiqua][B]الرب قد ملك ام ملك على خشبة فى المزمور 96 [/B][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][SIZE=5][B] [FONT=Book Antiqua][COLOR=Black]قُولُوا بَيْنَ الأُمَمِ: [/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][COLOR=Black]«الرَّبُّ[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][COLOR=Black]قَدْ[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][COLOR=Black]مَلَكَ.[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua][COLOR=Black] أَيْضًا تَثَبَّتَتِ الْمَسْكُونَةُ فَلاَ تَتَزَعْزَعُ. يَدِينُ الشُّعُوبَ بِالاسْتِقَامَةِ[/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=Blue][B][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5]وفى الترجمات المسيحية الىل بتعبر كشاهد مباشر للنص العبرى البشيطا[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Blue][B]مطابقة للنص الماسورى ولا يوجد اضافة على خشبة من القرن الرابع فلجاتا القديس جيروم مطابقة للنص الماسورى ولا يوجد الاضافة على خشبة [/B][/COLOR][LEFT][FONT=Century Gothic][B][SIZE=5]10 dicite in gentibus Dominus regnavit siquidem adpendit orbem inmobilem iudicabit populos in aequitate dicite in gentibus quia Dominus regnavit etenim correxit orbem qui non movebitur iudicabit populos in aequitate [/SIZE][/B][/FONT][FONT=Century Gothic][B][SIZE=5] Say ye among the Gentiles, the Lord hath reigned. For he hath corrected the world, which shall not be moved: he will judge the people with justice [/SIZE][/B][/FONT][RIGHT][COLOR=Blue][B] الترجمة السبعينية لن تجد ايضا الاضافة. [/B][/COLOR][B][FONT=Century Gothic] [/FONT][/B][LEFT][B][FONT=Century Gothic]ὅτε ὁ οἶκος ᾠκοδομεῖτο μετὰ τὴν αἰχμαλωσίαν ᾠδὴ τῷ δαυιδ ᾄσατε τῷ κυρίῳ ᾆσμα καινόν ᾄσατε τῷ κυρίῳ πᾶσα ἡ γῆ [/FONT][/B][RIGHT][B]وترجمتها [/B][LEFT][B][FONT=Century Gothic]Say among the heathen, The Lord reigns: for he has established the world so that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people in righteousness [/FONT][/B][RIGHT][B][COLOR=Blue]لا يوجد اضافة على خشبة. لكننا نجدها فى الترجمة الشقيقة للسبعينية هى الترجمة القبطية ان النص الرب قد ملك على خشبة ومعروف ان القبطية شاهد مباشر لنص السبعينية واكدنا فى المشاركة السابقة بكلام الشهيد يوستنيوس نفسه انه بدء كلامه مع تريفو حول الترجمة التى صنعها السبعين شيخ فى عهد بطليموس فى مصر وحتى الترقيم 95 هذا موافق لترقيم السبعينية وهذا هو كلام يوستنيوس بالكامل ولا نجد فيه اى اشارة للنص العبرى اطلاقا بل اكد بنفسه فى البداية على استبعاد بعض العبارات من السبعينية [/COLOR][/B] [CENTER][COLOR=Blue][B][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5]chap. lxxiii.—[the words] “from the wood” have been cut out of ps. xcvi.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR][/CENTER] [LEFT][COLOR=Blue][B][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5]“[U][COLOR=DarkRed]And from the ninety-fifth[/COLOR][/U] (ninety-sixth) Psalm they have taken away this short saying of the words of David: ‘From the wood.’[URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1"]275[/URL] For when the passage said, ‘Tell ye among the nations, the Lord hath reigned from the wood,’ they have left, ‘Tell ye among the nations, the Lord hath reigned.’ Now no one of your people has ever been said to have reigned as God and Lord among the nations, with the exception of Him only who was crucified, of whom also the Holy Spirit affirms in the same Psalm that He was raised again, and freed from [the grave], declaring that there is none like Him among the gods of the nations: for they are idols of demons. But I shall repeat the whole Psalm to you, that you may perceive what has been said. It is thus: ‘Sing unto the Lord a new song; sing unto the Lord, all the earth. Sing unto the Lord, and bless His name; show forth His salvation from day to day. Declare His glory among the nations, His wonders among all people. For the Lord is great, and greatly to be praised: He is to be feared above all the gods. For all the gods of the nations are demons but the Lord made the heavens. Confession and beauty are in His presence; holiness and magnificence are in His sanctuary. Bring to the Lord, O ye countries of the nations, bring to the Lord glory and honour, bring to the Lord glory in His name. Take sacrifices, and go into His courts; worship the Lord in His holy temple. Let the whole earth be moved before Him: tell ye among the nations, the Lord hath reigned.[URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn2"]276[/URL] For He hath established the world, which shall not be moved; He shall judge the nations with equity. Let the heavens rejoice, and the earth be glad; let the sea and its fulness shake. Let the fields and all therein be joyful. Let all the trees of the wood be glad before the Lord: for He comes, for He comes to judge the earth. He shall judge the world with righteousness, and the people with His truth.’ ”[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Blue][B][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5]Here Trypho remarked, “Whether [or not] the rulers of the people have erased any portion of the ******ures, as you affirm, God knows; but it seems incredible.”[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Blue][B][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5]“Assuredly,” said I, “it does seem incredible. For it is more horrible than the calf which they made, when satisfied with manna on the earth; or than the sacrifice of children to demons; or than the slaying of the prophets. But,” said I, “you appear to me not to have heard the ******ures which I said they had stolen away. For such as have been quoted are more than enough to prove the points in dispute, besides those which are retained by us,[URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn3"]277[/URL] and shall yet be brought forward.”[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR][/LEFT] [COLOR=Blue][B][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1"]275 [/URL]These words were not taken away by the Jews, but added by some Christian.—Otto. [A statement not proved.][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Blue][B][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref2"]276 [/URL]It is strange that “from the wood” is not added; but the audacity of the copyists in such matters is well known.—Maranus.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Blue][B][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref3"]277 [/URL]Many think, “you.”[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Blue][B][FONT=Book Antiqua][SIZE=5]Roberts, A., Donaldson, J., Coxe, A. C., Donaldson, J., & Coxe, A. C. (1997). [I]The Ante-Nicene Fathers Vol.I : Translations of the writings of the Fathers down to A.D. 325[/I]. The apostolic fathers with Justin Martyr and Irenaeus. (235). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR]. [/RIGHT] [/LEFT] [/RIGHT] [/LEFT] [/RIGHT] [/LEFT] [B]وللتاكيد ايضا انه يتكلم عن الترجمة السبعينية يقول كلارك[/B] [B][FONT=Century Gothic][SIZE=5][I]Justin[/I] [I]Martyr[/I], in his dialogue with [I]Trypho[/I] the Jew, quotes this passage thus: [FONT=Gentium]Ειπατε εν τοις εθνεσι ο κυριος εβασιλευσε απο του ξυλου[/FONT], "Say among the nations, the Lord ruleth [I]by the wood[/I]," meaning the [I]cross[/I]; and accuses the Jews of having blotted this word out of their Bibles, because of the evidence it gave of the truth of Christianity. [U][COLOR=DarkRed]It appears that this reading did exist anciently in the [/COLOR][/U][U][COLOR=DarkRed][I]Septuagint[/I][/COLOR][/U], [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [LEFT] [B][FONT=Century Gothic][SIZE=5]Clarke, A. (1999). [I]Clarke's Commentary: Psalms[/I] (electronic ed.). Logos Library System; Clarke's Commentaries (Ps 96:10). Albany, OR: Ages Software[/SIZE][/FONT][/B]. [/LEFT] [COLOR=Blue][B] نرجع لكلام طفلنا المراهق يقول الجاهل اللى بينقل من اصحابه فى المنتديات الخربانة [/B][/COLOR][B]فهل رائ احد ان الشهيد يوستين يتكلم عن النص العبرى؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ والشهيد يوستين نفسه اكد بانه يتكلم عن ترجمة السبعين شيخ واسفاه على المستوى الهابط الاهبط من شرايط شعبان عبد الرحيم الذى يتغنى فيه هذة المقولات الراقية هبطل السجارير واكون انسان جديد فمتى ستقرا ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ هل حينما ستكون فى القبر مع الثعبان الاقرع وناكير ونكير؟ ام حينما ستجلس مع حور العين فى جنة 5 باب لننتقل لكلام العلماء ونقارنه بكلام شعبوله [/B] [B]كلارك[/B] [B]متى ستتعلم ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ فكيف تتدعى جهلا يا شعبولة يا ناقل من جهال المسلمين ان الشهيد يوستنيوس الاممى يتكلم عن النص العبرى؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ وحتى الترجمات المسيحية المباشرة للنص العبرى لا يوجد فيها الاضافة السبعينية على خشبة واسفاه على العقول يلا منجلكش فى حاجة وحشة قولى نزلت تسرح ب2499 كتاب الىل عندك فى الموسكى ولا ناوى تفرش فى عبد العزيز بيهم زى ما ابونا قالك يا ضنايا؟؟ [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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