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[QUOTE="اغريغوريوس, post: 2622769, member: 19359"] [CENTER][FONT=Courier New][B][COLOR=Red][SIZE=5]كيف لفوطيفار أن يكون له زوجه وهو خصي[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/FONT][FONT=Microsoft Sans Serif]؟؟؟؟ [/FONT][/CENTER] [B][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="] [COLOR=DarkRed]طالعنا احد الفطاحلة بشبهة غريبة عجيبة [/COLOR]؟![COLOR=Green]يدل علي مدي عدم علم طارحها او معرفتة ببواطن الاموُر[/COLOR]؟! ف[COLOR=Blue]الاشكالية تكمن في عدم معرفة طارحها لكتبة[/COLOR]!؟[COLOR=Purple]وستري عزيزي مدي الخزي الذي يقولة طارح الشبهة؟![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B] [B][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="][COLOR=Sienna]ويستدل ويَدعي ان قصة يوسف باطلة لان بها اخطاء مثل هذة الاخطاء كيف لخصي ان يتزوج؟[/COLOR]![COLOR=RoyalBlue]ويشمر عن ساعديه ويتحدي؟[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B] [COLOR=Green][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5]فيستلخص الرد في عدة نقاط وهي[/SIZE][/FONT][/B]:-[/COLOR] [LIST=1] [*][COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][B][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]معني الكلمة في القواميس المختلفة[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B][/COLOR] [*][COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][B][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]شرح الكلمة وما معني خصي فرعون [/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B][/COLOR] [*][COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][B][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]زواج الخصي في معتقدة الاسلامي[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B][/COLOR] [*][COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][B][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]الترجمات والنص[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B][/COLOR] [*][COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][B][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]التفاسير المختلفة [/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B][/COLOR] [*][COLOR=DarkSlateBlue][B][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]خاتمة وتلخيص[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B][/COLOR] [/LIST] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][B][COLOR=blue][FONT="]39: 1[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][B][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [SIZE=5][COLOR=Navy][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]١وَأَمَّا يُوسُفُ فَأُنْزِلَ إِلَى مِصْرَ، وَاشْتَرَاهُ فُوطِيفَارُ خَصِيُّ فِرْعَوْنَ رَئِيسُ الشُّرَطِ، رَجُلٌ مِصْرِيٌّ، مِنْ يَدِ الإِسْمَاعِيلِيِّينَ الَّذِينَ أَنْزَلُوهُ إِلَى هُنَاكَ.[/FONT][/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]معني كلمة [COLOR=Red]مخصي [/COLOR]الموجودة في النص من القوميس:-[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=maroon][FONT="]Gen 39:1[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=maroon][/COLOR][FONT="]ויוסף[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H3130 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]And Joseph[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]הורד[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H3381 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]was brought down[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]מצרימה[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H4714 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]to Egypt;[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]ויקנהו[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H7069 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]bought[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]פוטיפר[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H6318 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]and Potiphar,[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]סריס[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H5631[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=Red][FONT="]an officer[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]פרעה[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H6547 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]of Pharaoh,[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]שׂר[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H8269 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]captain[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]הטבחים[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H2876 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]of the guard,[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]אישׁ[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H376[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]מצרי[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H4713[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]מיד[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H3027 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]him of the hands[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]הישׁמעאלים[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H3459 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]of the Ishmaelites,[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]אשׁר[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H834 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]which[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]הורדהו[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H3381 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]had brought him down[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]שׁמה׃[/FONT][COLOR=green][FONT="]H8033 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=gray][FONT="]thither.[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]لنري الكلمة المثار حولها لاشكالية في [COLOR=Blue]القواميس المختلفة[/COLOR]:-[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]كلمة المستخدمة للتعبير تعني في[U][COLOR=Red] قاموس استرونج[/COLOR][/U][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]H5631[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][COLOR=blue][FONT="]סרס[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="]סריס[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]sa[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][FONT="]̂[/FONT][FONT="]ri[/FONT][FONT="]̂[/FONT][FONT="]ys sa[/FONT][FONT="]̂[/FONT][FONT="]ris[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][I][FONT="]saw-reece',[/I][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][I][/I][FONT="] [I]saw-reece'[/I][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=Green][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]From an unused root meaning to [I]castrate[/I]; a [I]eunuch[/I]; by implication [I]valet[/I] (especially of the female apartments), and thus a [I]minister[/I] of state: - chamberlain, eunuch, officer. Compare H7249.[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR][/LEFT] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="] [COLOR=Red]اتت بمعني امين خزانة ,ضابط .تاتي بمعني يقصد به الخصية ,خصي,بمعني خادم(خصوصا للشق النسائي)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [COLOR=Magenta]======================================[/COLOR] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]H5631[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][COLOR=blue][FONT="]ָסִריס[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][I][FONT="]sariys[/I][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][I][/I][FONT="]: A masculine noun meaning a court official, a eunuch. Derived from an Assyrian phrase meaning one who is the head or chief, this word can refer to someone with a high-ranking military or political status ([U][COLOR=green]Gen_40:2[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Gen_40:7[/COLOR][/U]; [U][COLOR=green]1Sa_8:15[/COLOR][/U]). Potiphar held an official post called the captain of the guard while working in the court of an Egyptian pharaoh ([U][COLOR=green]Gen_37:36[/COLOR][/U]; [U][COLOR=green]Gen_39:1[/COLOR][/U]). The term eunuch comes from the custom of placing castrated males in certain key government positions ([U][COLOR=green]2Ki_20:18[/COLOR][/U]; [U][COLOR=green]Est_2:3[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Est_2:14-15[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Est_2:21[/COLOR][/U]; [U][COLOR=green]Est_4:4-5[/COLOR][/U]; [U][COLOR=green]Isa_39:7[/COLOR][/U]). According to Mosaic Law, males who had defective genital organs would have been excluded from the worshiping community of Israel (cf. [U][COLOR=green]Lev_21:20[/COLOR][/U]; [U][COLOR=green]Deu_23:1[/COLOR][/U]). In [U][COLOR=green]2Ki_18:17[/COLOR][/U], the term appears in a phrase that probably does not denote a eunuch but simply means an important government official ([U][COLOR=green]Jer_39:3[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Jer_39:13[/COLOR][/U]).[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]يقول ان الكلمة هي ([COLOR=Green]سرير[/COLOR]) [COLOR=DarkRed]بمعني اسم مذكر يعني رئيس محكمة ’خصي ,وهي مشتقه من عبارة اشورية تعني شخص رئيس فهذة الكلمة قد تشير الي شخص ما معه جيش كبير,او منزلة سياسية.فالتعبير قد يدل علي شخص مسؤول حكومي ليس بالضروري خصي كما جاء في ارميا 39,ففوطيفار في سفر التكوين كان قائداً للحرس للفرعون وعمل في محكمة للفرعون المصري,[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][COLOR=DarkRed] [/COLOR][COLOR=Magenta]======================================[/COLOR] [U][COLOR=Red][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]المواضع التي ذكرة بها الكلمة في الكتاب المقدس ومعانيها في كل موضع :-[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR][/U] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]kcs[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]H5631[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=blue][FONT="]סרס[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][FONT="] / [/FONT][COLOR=blue][FONT="]סריס[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]sa[/FONT][FONT="]̂[/FONT][FONT="]ri[/FONT][FONT="]̂[/FONT][FONT="]ys / sa[/FONT][FONT="]̂[/FONT][FONT="]ris[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]Total KJV Occurrences: 42[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [RIGHT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="],[/FONT][FONT="]جاءةفي 15 موضع[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="] بمعني خصي في [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]eunuchs[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/RIGHT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][U][COLOR=green][FONT="]2Ki_9:32[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][U][COLOR=green][/COLOR][/U][FONT="], [U][COLOR=green]2Ki_20:18[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Isa_39:7[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Isa_56:4[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Jer_29:2[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Jer_34:19[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Jer_38:7[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Jer_41:16[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Dan_1:3[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Dan_1:7-11[/COLOR][/U] (5), [U][COLOR=green]Dan_1:18[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="] 9 [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]مرات[/FONT][FONT="] جاءة [/FONT][FONT="]بمعني امين خزانة[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]chamberlains[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][U][COLOR=green][FONT="]Est_1:10[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][U][COLOR=green][/COLOR][/U][FONT="], [U][COLOR=green]Est_1:12[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Est_1:15[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Est_2:21[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Est_4:4-5[/COLOR][/U] (2), [U][COLOR=green]Est_6:2[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Est_6:14[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Est_7:9[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="], 7 [/FONT][FONT="]جاءة بمعني ضباط [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]officers[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][U][COLOR=green][FONT="]Gen_40:2[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][U][COLOR=green][/COLOR][/U][FONT="], [U][COLOR=green]Gen_40:7[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]1Sa_8:15[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]2Ki_24:12[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]2Ki_24:15[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]1Ch_28:1[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]2Ch_18:8[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="], 5 [/FONT][FONT="]جاءة بمعني ضابط [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]officer[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][U][COLOR=green][FONT="]Gen_37:36[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][U][COLOR=green][/COLOR][/U][COLOR=red][FONT="], [U]Gen_39:1[/U],[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="] [U][COLOR=green]1Ki_22:9[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]2Ki_8:6[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]2Ki_25:19[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="], 4 [/FONT][FONT="]امين خزانة[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]chamberlain[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][U][COLOR=green][FONT="]2Ki_23:11[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][U][COLOR=green][/COLOR][/U][FONT="], [U][COLOR=green]Est_2:3[/COLOR][/U], [U][COLOR=green]Est_2:14-15[/COLOR][/U] (2)[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="], 2 [/FONT][FONT="]خصي[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]eunuch[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][U][COLOR=green][FONT="]Isa_56:3[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][U][COLOR=green][/COLOR][/U][FONT="], [U][COLOR=green]Jer_52:25[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]نلاحظ انة تم الاشارة انها تعني ظابط في النص المثار حوله الشبهة[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [COLOR=Magenta]======================================[/COLOR] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]Bdb[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]H5631[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][COLOR=blue][FONT="]סרס[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][FONT="] / [/FONT][COLOR=blue][FONT="]סריס[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]sa[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][FONT="]̂[/FONT][FONT="]ri[/FONT][FONT="]̂[/FONT][FONT="]ys / sa[/FONT][FONT="]̂[/FONT][FONT="]ris[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]BDB Definition:[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]1) [COLOR=Red]official, eunuch [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][FONT="]ضابط خصي[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]Part of Speech: noun masculine [/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][FONT="]اسم مذكر[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from an unused root meaning to castrate[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]Same Word by TWOT Number: 1545[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [COLOR=Magenta]======================================[/COLOR] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]Snasek[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]H5631 [/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][COLOR=blue][FONT="]סריס[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]saris or[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][COLOR=blue][FONT="]סרס[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][COLOR=blue][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [LEFT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]saris (710b); prob. of for. or.; [I]eunuch[/I]: - court officers (1), court officials (1), eunuch (5), eunuchs (10), officer (5), officers (1), official (3), officials (16).[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT] [COLOR=Magenta]======================================[/COLOR] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]وغيرها من القواميس فالكلمة ال[COLOR=Green]عبريه تعني ظابط ,رئيس محكمة,مسؤول حكومي,امين خزانة,خادم ,خصي [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]فكلمة خصي لا تاتي في كثيراً من الاحيان[U][COLOR=Red] بالمعني الحرفي[/COLOR][/U] لكن تشير الي [U][FONT=Impact][COLOR=Green]لقب [/COLOR][/FONT][/U]لمن [COLOR=Blue]ينوط بعمل معين للملك[/COLOR] فهي ليس مجرد الا لقب لشخص منوط من البلاط الملكي ليس شرطاً ان يكون مخصي بالمعني الجسدي [/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]امثلة[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [U][COLOR=Green][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]يقول قاموس الكتاب المقدس عن[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR][/U] [B][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]الخصيّ الحبشي | الوزير الحبشي[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/B] [RIGHT][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]ويقول[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][FONT="] التقليد الحبشي إن هذا الخصي هو الذي أدخل المسيحية إلى[/FONT][FONT="][URL="http://st-takla.org/Ethiopia/www.St-Takla.org__Visit-to-Ethiopia-2008__00-index.html"] إثيوبيا[/URL][/FONT][FONT="]، والأرجح أنه[/FONT][FONT="]لم يكن "خصياً" حقيقية بل "مركزاً" إذ إن الكلمة قد تدل على من يشغل أحد[/FONT][FONT="]المراكز الرفيعة في بلاط الملكة، إذ لو كان "خصياً" لما جاز له أن يسجد في[/FONT][FONT="]الهيكل في[/FONT][FONT="][URL="http://st-takla.org/Full-Free-Coptic-Books/FreeCopticBooks-002-Holy-Arabic-Bible-Dictionary/01_A/A_448.html"] أورشليم[/URL] ([/FONT][FONT="]تث 1:23)، ولا شك في أنه[/FONT][FONT="]لم يكن يهودياً أصلاً بل كان "دخيلاً" (مت 15:23، أع 10:2، 5:6، 43:13[/FONT][FONT="]). [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/RIGHT] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]كما جاء[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][U][COLOR=black][FONT=Arial]الملوك الثانى ٨ : ٦[/FONT][/COLOR][/U][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][COLOR=red][FONT="]٦[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][COLOR=red][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="]فَسَأَلَ الْمَلِكُ الْمَرْأَةَ فَقَصَّتْ عَلَيْهِ ذلِكَ، فَأَعْطَاهَا الْمَلِكُ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=red][FONT="]خَصِيًّا[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT="] قَائِلاً: "أَرْجعْ كُلَّ مَا لَهَا وَجَمِيعَ غَلاَّتِ الْحَقْلِ مِنْ حِينَِ تَرَكَتِ الأَرْضَ إِلَى الآنَ".[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]وامثلة اخري من سفر استير وسفر نحميا[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]اولا ما تعريف كلمة مخصي؟[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]المخصى[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][FONT="] كما جاء في الويكبديا هو رجل تمت تخصيته، أي تم استئصال خصيتيه، ولا سيما مخصى في[/FONT][FONT="]وقت مبكر بما يكفي لعدم تكون آثار هرمونية هامة أو علامات بلوغ؛ وعادة ما[/FONT][FONT="]يشير المصطلح إلى [COLOR=red]المخصى من أجل أداء وظيفة اجتماعية محددة، كما كان شائعا[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=red][FONT="]في كثير من المجتمعات من الماضي[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [COLOR=Magenta]=======================================[/COLOR] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="][COLOR=Blue]فكلمة الخصي تشمل على ثلاث معاني[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][FONT="][COLOR=Blue]:[/COLOR] [/FONT][FONT="][COLOR=Red]الأول[/COLOR][/FONT][FONT="][COLOR=Red]:[/COLOR] [/FONT][FONT="]من جردوا من قواهم الجنسية, لذلك كان الخصيان يُستخدمون في بلدان الشرق[/FONT][FONT="]لخدمة البيوت التي فيها النساء، أو الإشراف على جناح النساء في قصور الملوك[/FONT][FONT="]والولاة[/FONT][FONT="].[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="][COLOR=Red]الثاني[/COLOR] :هو الشخص الذي يمتنع عن الجنس بارادتة[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="][COLOR=Red]الثالث[/COLOR]: تدل على معنى الوظيفة أو المكان، وخصوصاً من يشغلون[/FONT][FONT="]أحد المراكز الرفيعة في بلاط الملوك. وليس بالضرورة أن كلمة خصي، تعني[/FONT][FONT="]التجرد من القدرة الجنسية بل كان كلقب مثل فوطيفار[/FONT][FONT="].[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [COLOR=Red][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5]فالثالث هو من ينطبق علي فوطيفار[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]وكلمة المخصي لا تستخدم حرفياً في كثيراً من الاحيان فيقول [COLOR=Blue]القمص تادرس يعقوب [/COLOR]في تفسيرة لسفر استير يقول[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [COLOR=Green][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]ان الكلمة جاءة عن فوطيفار بمعني غير حرفي :-[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="] طاب قلب الملك بالخمر، ففقد إتزانه، وفي حماقة طلب من خصيانه السبعة أن يأتوا بالملكة ليظهر جمالها للشعوب والرؤساء. هنا كلمة "[COLOR=DarkRed]خصي[/COLOR][COLOR=red]" لا تعني المعنى الحرفي أي الرجل المخصي[/COLOR]، وإنما هو لقب كان يُعطى [COLOR=blue]لأصحاب الأعمال الملوكية في مصر وفارس، فرئيس الشرطة فوطيفار دُعى "خصي فرعون[/COLOR]" (تك 39: 1)، وهكذا [COLOR=maroon]رئيس سقاة فرعون[/COLOR]، [COLOR=maroon]ورئيس خبازيه[/COLOR] (تك 40: 2)... فالخصيان السبعة هم الرجال المؤتمنون على الأعمال الملوكية ولهم حظوة الخدم أمام الملك. [/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][COLOR=red][FONT="]ويقول القمص انطونيوس فكري في تفسير رسالة نحميا[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][COLOR=red][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]خصى أو خصيان =[COLOR=Blue] لا تعنى المعنى الحرفى[/COLOR] " رجل مخصى" بل هذا لقب لأصحاب الأعمال الملوكية فالخصيان السبعة هم الرجال المؤتمنون على الأعمال الملوكية ولهم حظوة الخدمة امام الملك .[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]وسنري عدة تفسيرات تاكد نفس المفهوم فيما بعد[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [COLOR=Sienna][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]تدمير اعتراض المعترض علي كلمة خصي فوطيفار بمفهومة الخاطئ من الناحية الاسلامية:[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]اولا اذا فرضنا بمفهومك الخاطئ ان فوطيفار مخصي؟!بالمعني الحرفي كما ذكرت وفندنا هذة الاكذوبة فانت تعترض وتقول كيف لمخصي ان يتزوج الان سنري من كتبك وسنعلمك ما كنت لا تتوقعة ان تجد اباحة زواج المخصي وطلاقة[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [IMG]http://files.arabchurch.com/upload/images2010/13021227.png[/IMG][IMG]http://i20.servimg.com/u/f20/11/60/84/94/oououu10.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i20.servimg.com/u/f20/11/60/84/94/2ou12.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i20.servimg.com/u/f20/11/60/84/94/3ou12.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i20.servimg.com/u/f20/11/60/84/94/4ou11.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i20.servimg.com/u/f20/11/60/84/94/6png10.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://files.arabchurch.com/upload/images2010/1054633263.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://files.arabchurch.com/upload/images2010/358956548.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://files.arabchurch.com/upload/images2010/856088540.png[/IMG][IMG]http://i20.servimg.com/u/f20/11/60/84/94/5ou11.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://files.arabchurch.com/upload/images2010/1035058916.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://files.arabchurch.com/upload/images2010/855936493.png[/IMG] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]دعونا نرجع لموضوع الشبهة بعد ان [COLOR=Red]لقنا طارحها درساً في كتبة[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]جاءة الاية في الترجمات:[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]لا ننسي قبل ان نري الترجمات ان الترجمات انواع [COLOR=Navy]فيوجد ترجمة تفسيرة وحرفية ومتحررة[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]نجد ان معظم الترجمات الانجليزية جاءة بالكلمة بمعني[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][COLOR=red][FONT="]officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][COLOR=red][/COLOR][FONT="] = و[COLOR=Green]التي تساوي في الفهم كلقب لخصي فرعون [/COLOR]كمركزاً وكما اشرنا انه غير حرفي فنجد ان في بعض التراجم [/FONT][FONT="],[/FONT][FONT="]القليلة استعملتة[/FONT][COLOR=red][FONT="]eunuch of Pharaoh[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]والتي تعني شخص من البلاط الملكي او لقب يلتصق بشخص ذو منصب[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] او مركزاً [SIZE=4] [/SIZE] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](ACV)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was brought down to Egypt. And Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh's, the [COLOR=red]captain of the guard[/COLOR], an Egyptian, bought him from the hand of the Ishmaelites, who had brought him down there.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](AESV Torah)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] Yoseph was brought down to Egypt. Potiphar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Pharaoh's[/COLOR], the captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him from the hand of the Ishmaelites that had brought him down there.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](AKJ)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmeelites, which had brought him down thither.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [SIZE=4] [/SIZE] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](AMP)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] AND JOSEPH was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], the captain and chief executioner of the [[I][COLOR=gray]royal[/COLOR][/I]] guard, an Egyptian, bought him from the Ishmaelites who had brought him down there.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](ASV)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar[COLOR=red], an officer of Pharaoh's[/COLOR], the captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hand of the Ishmaelites, that had brought him down thither. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](BBE)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] Now Joseph was taken down to Egypt; [COLOR=red]and Potiphar the Egyptian, a captain[/COLOR] of high position in Pharaoh's house, got him for a price from the Ishmaelites who had taken him there.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](Bishops)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] Ioseph was brought vnto Egypt, and Putiphar, a Lorde of Pharaos, and his chiefe stewarde, an Egyptian, bought hym of the Ismaelites, whiche had brought hym thyther. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](ESV)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] Now Joseph had been brought down to Egypt, and Potiphar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], the captain of the guard, an Egyptian, had bought him from the Ishmaelites who had brought him down there. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](GW)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] Joseph had been taken to Egypt. Potiphar, one of Pharaoh's [COLOR=red]Egyptian officials and captain[/COLOR] of the guard, bought him from the Ishmaelites who had taken him there. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](HCSB)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] Now Joseph had been taken to Egypt. An Egyptian [I]named[/I] Potiphar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR] and the captain of the guard, bought him from the Ishmaelites who had brought him there. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](HCSB-r)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] Now Joseph had been taken to Egypt. An Egyptian [named] Potiphar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR] and the captain of the guard, bought him from the Ishmaelites who had brought him there.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](HNV)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] Yosef was brought down to Egypt. Potifar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Par`oh's,[/COLOR] the captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him from the hand of the Yishme`elim that had brought him down there. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](IAV)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Yosef was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmeelites, which had brought him down thither.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](ISRAV)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Yosef was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmeelites, which had brought him down thither.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](JST)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar[COLOR=red], an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmaelites, which had brought him down thither.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](JOSMTH)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar[COLOR=red], an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmaelites, which had brought him down thither.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](JPS)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Pharaoh's[/COLOR], the captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hand of the Ishmaelites, that had brought him down thither. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](KJ2000)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar[COLOR=red], an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmaelites, who had brought him down there.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](KJV+TVM)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph[COLOR=green]3130[/COLOR] was brought down[COLOR=green]3381[/COLOR] [COLOR=green][8717][/COLOR] to Egypt[COLOR=green]4714[/COLOR]; and Potiphar[COLOR=green]6318[/COLOR][COLOR=red], an officer5631 of Pharaoh6547, captain8269[/COLOR] of the guard[COLOR=green]2876[/COLOR], an Egyptian[COLOR=green]376[/COLOR] [COLOR=green]4713[/COLOR], bought[COLOR=green]7069[/COLOR] [COLOR=green][8799][/COLOR] him of the hands[COLOR=green]3027[/COLOR] of the Ishmeelites[COLOR=green]3459[/COLOR], which had brought him down[COLOR=green]3381[/COLOR] [COLOR=green][8689][/COLOR] thither.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](KJV)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; [COLOR=red]and Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmeelites, which had brought him down thither. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](KJV+)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph[COLOR=green]3130[/COLOR] was brought down[COLOR=green]3381[/COLOR] to Egypt;[COLOR=green]4714[/COLOR] and Potiphar,[COLOR=red]6318[/COLOR][COLOR=red] an officer5631 of Pharaoh,6[/COLOR][COLOR=green]547[/COLOR] captain[COLOR=green]8269[/COLOR] of the guard,[COLOR=green]2876[/COLOR] an Egyptian,[COLOR=green]376, 4713[/COLOR] bought[COLOR=green]7069[/COLOR] him of the hands[COLOR=green]4480, 3027[/COLOR] of the Ishmaelites,[COLOR=green]3459[/COLOR] which[COLOR=green]834[/COLOR] had brought him down[COLOR=green]3381[/COLOR] thither.[COLOR=green]8033[/COLOR] [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](KJV-1611)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Ioseph was brought downe to Egypt, and [COLOR=red]Potiphar an Officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], captaine of ye guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hand of the Ishmeelites, which had brought him downe thither. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](KJV21)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar[COLOR=red], an officer of Pharaoh,[/COLOR] captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him from the hands of the Ishmaelites, who had brought him down thither.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](KJVA)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmeelites, which had brought him down thither. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](KJVR)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmaelites, which had brought him down thither. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](LBP)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] AND Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar[COLOR=red], an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], commander of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him from the Arabians who had brought him down there.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](Lamsa)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] AND Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, [COLOR=red]an officer of Pharaoh[/COLOR], commander of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him from the Arabians who had brought him down there.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](MSG)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] After Joseph had been taken to Egypt by the Ishmaelites, Potiphar an Egyptian, [COLOR=red]one of Pharaoh's officials[/COLOR] and the manager of his household, bought him from them. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]وفي ترجمة جنيفا جاءة بمعني خصي فرعون وهو المعني الذي سبق شرح اي له وظيفة ملكية ولا يعني بالتاكيد بالمعني الحرفي كما شرحنا[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [/SIZE] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](Geneva)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] Now Ioseph was brought downe into Egypt: [COLOR=red]and Potiphar an Eunuche[/COLOR] of Pharaohs (and his chiefe stewarde an Egyptian) bought him at the hande of the Ishmeelites, which had brought him thither. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](LITV)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was carried down to Egypt. And Potiphar, [COLOR=red]a eunuch of Pharaoh[/COLOR], the chief of the executioners, an Egyptian man, bought him from the hand of the Ishmaelites who had carried him down there. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](MKJV)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="] And Joseph was brought down to Egypt. And Potiphar, a [COLOR=red]eunuch of Pharaoh[/COLOR], the chief of the executioners, an Egyptian man, bought him from the Ishmaelites who had brought him down there. [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="] (ASB)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="]أما يوسف فأخذه الاسماعيليون إلى مصر. واشتراه منهم مصري اسمه فوطيفار، [COLOR=red]وهو أحد أعوان فرعون[/COLOR] وقائد الحرس. [/FONT][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](GNA)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="]وأما يوسف فأنزله الإسماعيليون معهم إلى مصر، فاشتراه منهم فوطيفار المصري، [COLOR=red]كبير خدم[/COLOR] فرعون ورئيس الطهاة.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](ALAB)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="]وأخذ الإسماعيليون يوسف إلى مصر، فاشتراه منهم مصري يدعى فوطيفار، [COLOR=red]كان خصي فرعون[/COLOR] ورئيس الحرس.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](2SVD)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="]واما يوسف فانزل الى مصر واشتراه فوطيفار [COLOR=red]خصي فرعون[/COLOR] رئيس الشرط رجل مصري من يد الاسماعيليين الذين انزلوه الى هناك.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=teal][FONT="](JAB)[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=teal][/COLOR][FONT="]أما يوسف فأنزل إلى مصر، فاشتراه فوطيفار، [COLOR=red]خصي فرعون[/COLOR] ورئيس الحرس، رجل مصري ، من أيدي الإسماعيليين الذين نزلوا به إلى هناك.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [/SIZE] [COLOR=Green][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]فملخص الرد علي السؤال الذي يقول ان فوطيفار مخصي كيف يتزوج ؟يكمن ببساطة في عدة نقط [/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Red][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="][COLOR=Sienna]1-[/COLOR]مفهوم كلمة [COLOR=Green]خصي [/COLOR]في الازمنة القديمة[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="][COLOR=Sienna]2-[/COLOR]استخدام كلمة [COLOR=Green]الخصي [/COLOR]في الكتاب المقدس لم ياتي بمعني حرفي فقط او بمعني جسدي بل كان له مدلول كرتبة او كلقب او مركزاً وتم شرح ثلاث مدلولات للكلمة مسبقاً[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Red] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="][COLOR=Sienna]3-[/COLOR]عدم علم طارح الشبهة [COLOR=Green]بكتبة [/COLOR]الذي حللت له زواج المخصي[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Red] [/COLOR] [COLOR=Blue][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]بعض التفاسير المسيحية:[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [SIZE=4] [/SIZE] [LEFT][SIZE=4][COLOR=Red][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]preacher[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]Gen 39:1-6 [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]Success[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][U][COLOR=green][FONT="]Gen_39:1-23[/COLOR][/U][/FONT][U][COLOR=green][/COLOR][/U][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]******ure Outline[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]Nothing Succeeds Like Success ([U][COLOR=green]Gen_39:1-6[/COLOR][/U]) Nothing Seduces Like Success ([U][COLOR=green]Gen_39:7-17[/COLOR][/U]) Nothing Sustains Like Success ([U][COLOR=green]Gen_39:18-23[/COLOR][/U])[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]The story of Joseph must rate as one of the most compelling and attractive narratives in ******ure if not in all literature. Callously betrayed, deserted, and sold like a piece of merchandise by his own brothers, he arrived in Egypt at the age of seventeen without friends and with no visible means of support. "[I]Potiphar, [COLOR=olive]an officer of Pharaoh, captain of the guard, an Egyptian[/COLOR], bought him from the Ishmaelites who had taken him down there"[/I] ([U][COLOR=green]Gen_39:1[/COLOR][/U]). Lesser men would have sunk into despair and defeat in such circumstances but not Joseph! "[I]The LORD was with Joseph, and he was a successful man.… And his master saw that the LORD was with him and that the LORD made all he did to prosper in his hand"[/I] ([U][COLOR=green]Gen_39:2-3[/COLOR][/U]). The expression which catches the eye is, "[I]he was a successful man."[/I] Few things are of greater interest to modern people than success which can be recognized and verified. "Success," however, can mean "a favorable outcome or result"—an achievement—or more often it can mean "the gaining of wealth, fame, and rank." The Hebrew word used to describe Joseph's experience conveys the former idea. The emphasis is not on his rank, fame, or wealth (although he was not short in any of these departments) but rather on the favorable outcome and achievement of all that he was intended to do.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]Nothing Succeeds Like Success[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]At a very early age Joseph had been given a sense of what he was to achieve, and when he shared it with his family, he got into trouble. But he did not forget his dreams about the sheaves and the heavenly bodies which had indicated that he would arrive at a position of prominence which even his own wretched brothers would one day acknowledge. This underlying sense of objective, coupled with a consciousness of his close relationship to the Lord, must have been significant factors in the development of his ability to press on regardless of circumstances. The emphasis on "[I]the LORD" cannot be overlooked in this account of Joseph's success. " The LORD was with Joseph," "his master saw that the LORD was with him," "the LORD made all he did to prosper (be successful) in his hand," "the blessing of the LORD was on all that he had in the house and in the field"[/I] ([U][COLOR=green]Gen_39:2-5[/COLOR][/U]).[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]Success requires not only an objective but also suitable criteria of evaluation. One man's success is another man's failure. Jesus hanging on a cross is to most men a loser, but at the moment of His death He cried triumphantly, "Finished." In His own eyes and in the eyes of His Father He was a winner. He had achieved! Joseph's achievements were measurable in material terms. Potiphar was not slow to note that as soon as he put the young man in charge everything in his house and business took off. He was so impressed with Joseph's abilities that he handed over to him the complete running of his household. But it is important to note that the Egyptian interpreted this material achievement in spiritual terms. He was ready to acknowledge that the secret of Joseph's achievement was his relationship to the Lord. It would be a mistake to assume that God's blessing can always be measured in material terms. The Lord Jesus was wonderfully successful but had little to show for it materially; the apostle Paul rates highly in everybody's voting for "Most Valuable Apostle" but he died in a prison with little material comfort besides a cloak and some good reading material.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]The key must have been in Joseph's exemplary lifestyle which he related to his spiritual convictions, and the clear articulation of his sense of God-given destiny. In much the same way that John the Baptist was determined not to take credit for his own success, but to point always and only to His Lord, so Joseph managed to convey, even to an Egyptian, that his hope and trust were in the Lord and it was He who gave him success. Joseph had come a long way from the empty cistern and the future looked bright for the young man who "[I]was handsome in form and appearance"[/I] ([U][COLOR=green]Gen_39:6[/COLOR][/U]). Everything was coming up roses for Joseph, but …[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]تفسير [/FONT][FONT="]guzik[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]Gen 39:1-23 [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][FONT="]Genesis 39 - Joseph in Potiphar's House[/I][/FONT][I][/I][/FONT][/B][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]A. Joseph in Potiphar's house.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]1. (1) Potiphar, an Egyptian official, buys Joseph.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=black][FONT="]Now Joseph had been taken down to Egypt. And Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him from the Ishmaelites who had taken him down there.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=black][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=olive][FONT="]a. Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, captain of the guard[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=olive][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT="], an Egyptian, bought him[/FONT][/COLOR][FONT="]: The name [COLOR=black]Potiphar[/COLOR] means "devoted to the sun." It was a name connected with the Egyptian religious system.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=red][FONT="]b. An officer of Pharaoh: The ancient Hebrew word officer may be translated "eunuch." It was a common practice in ancient times to make those highest in the royal courts eunuchs, to ensure they would be wholly devoted to their king. Because this practice was common, the term came to be used for all who served in important positions in a king's court, whether they were eunuchs or not. So we really don't know if Potiphar was a eunuch.[/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=red][/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]c. [COLOR=black]Captain of the guard[/COLOR]: The idea behind this title means "chief of police," or probably more precisely, Potiphar was head of Pharaoh's "Secret Service," his personal security force. He was a highly trusted official in the government of Egypt.[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]تفسير كلارك[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [/SIZE] [LEFT][SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]Gen 39:1 [/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE][/LEFT] [SIZE=4][B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]An officer of Pharaoh, captain of the guard - Mr. Ainsworth, supposing that his office merely consisted in having charge of the king’s prisoners, calls Potiphar provost marshal! See Clarke on [U][COLOR=green]Gen_37:36[/COLOR][/U] (note), See Clarke on [U][COLOR=green]Gen_40:3[/COLOR][/U] (note).[/FONT][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [/FONT][FONT="]تفسير [/FONT][FONT="]jeb[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]captain of the guard — The import of the original term has been variously interpreted, some considering it means “chief cook,” others, “chief inspector of plantations”; but that which seems best founded is “chief of the executioners,” the same as the captain of the watch, the [I]zabut[/I] of modern Egypt [Wilkinson].[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][FONT="]+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[/FONT][/FONT][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [/SIZE] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=5][FONT="]بعض المراجع الكتاب المقدس الموسوعة الويكبديا قاموس الكتاب المقدس قاموس استرونج وقواميس متعددة كتب اسلامية متعددة [/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="][URL]http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?idfrom=1690&idto=1690&bk_no=10&ID=1674[/URL][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="][URL]http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?idfrom=1947&idto=1960&bk_no=30&ID=594[/URL][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="][URL]http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?idfrom=2997&idto=2997&bk_no=31&ID=1259[/URL][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="][URL]http://islamport.com/w/fqh/Web/2793/1559.htm?zoom_highlight=%ED%CD%E1%E1%E5%C7[/URL][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="][URL]http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?bk_no=31&ID=1216&idfrom=2905&idto=2918&bookid=31&startno=11[/URL][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="][URL]http://islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?idfrom=10253&idto=10254&bk_no=73&ID=1223[/URL][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="][URL]http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?idfrom=1485&idto=1485&bk_no=10&ID=1476[/URL][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="]6[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT="][URL]http://www.islamweb.net/newlibrary/display_book.php?idfrom=1690&idto=1690&bk_no=10&ID=1674[/URL][/FONT][/B] [COLOR=Green] [/COLOR] [COLOR=Green] [/COLOR] [COLOR=Green][B][FONT="]اغريغوريوس[/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Green][B][FONT="]aghroghorios [/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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