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الرسالة: [QUOTE="Fadie, post: 217992, member: 1602"] [SIZE=5]قد يصل الجهل بالمرأ الى ان يخطأ دون ان يتعمد لمجرد بعض التشابه بين حروف الكلمات[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]الزميل المدلس يقول ان يعقوب كان من الناصريين؟؟؟[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]هل يعرف احدا لماذا؟؟[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]حسنا ساقول لكم[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]دعى يعقوب بـــ Nazrite فى عدة كتابات للأباء اكاد اجزم انه نفسه لا يعرف اين دعى يعقوب هكذا و ما الفرق بين Nazrite و Nazarene و لا عجب من ذلك فمن يتبع أناس لا علم لهم ولا ايمان لا عيب عليه ان توهم ان الكلمتين معنى واحد[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]حسنا أوضحنا فى المداخلة السابقة كل ما يختص بما ادعاه الزميل حول الناصريين و رغم اننا لم نرى منه حتى الان أية دليل على ادعاءه بأن يعقوب اخو المخلص كان من الناصريين الا أننى سأشفق على جهله ليس بأسلامه فقط بل حتى بأللغة[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]دعى القديس يعقوب بــ Nazarite فى كتابات ابيفانيوس فما معنى Nazrite ؟[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]فى سفر العدد الاصحاح السادس و العدد الثانى[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]דבר אל־בני ישׂראל ואמרת אלהם אישׁ או־אשׁה כי יפלא לנדר [COLOR=blue]נדר נזיר[/COLOR] להזיר ליהוה[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When either man or woman shall separate themselves to vow a vow of a [COLOR=blue]Nazarite[/COLOR], to separate themselves unto the LORD[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]נזר נזיר - naw-zeer', naw-zeer'[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]و يعنى "نذير"[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]و للتعرف أكثر عن النذير Nazarite[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]من الموسوعة اليهودية[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=142&letter=N"][SIZE=5]http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=142&letter=N[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]من الموسوعة الكاثوليكية[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10727a.htm"][SIZE=5]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10727a.htm[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]من الموسوعة البريطانية[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/NAN_NEW/NAZARITE.html"][SIZE=5]http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/NAN_NEW/NAZARITE.html[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5]قال أبيفانيوس عن القديس يعقوب اخو الرب انه كان نذيرا و ليس نصرانى Panarion 29.4[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]و نقرأ عن النذير انه يجب عليه الاتى[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [RIGHT][SIZE=5]فَعَنِ الخَمْرِ وَالمُسْكِرِ يَفْتَرِزُ وَلا يَشْرَبْ خَل الخَمْرِ وَلا خَل المُسْكِرِ وَلا يَشْرَبْ مِنْ نَقِيعِ العِنَبِ وَلا يَأْكُل عِنَباً رَطْباً وَلا يَابِساً. [/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]كُل أَيَّامِ نَذْرِهِ لا يَأْكُل مِنْ كُلِّ مَا يُعْمَلُ مِنْ جَفْنَةِ الخَمْرِ مِنَ العَجَمِ حَتَّى القِشْرِ. [/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]كُل أَيَّامِ نَذْرِ افْتِرَازِهِ لا يَمُرُّ مُوسَى عَلى رَأْسِهِ. إِلى كَمَالِ الأَيَّامِ التِي انْتَذَرَ فِيهَا لِلرَّبِّ يَكُونُ مُقَدَّساً وَيُرَبِّي خُصَل شَعْرِ رَأْسِهِ. [/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [/RIGHT] [SIZE=5]كُل أَيَّامِ انْتِذَارِهِ لِلرَّبِّ لا يَأْتِي إِلى جَسَدِ مَيِّتٍ[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]و قد كان يعقوب كذلك فنقرأ عنه فى كتابات هيجسابيوس فى تفسيره لأعمال الرسل[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]Five Books of Commentaries on the Acts of the Church[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]James, the Lord's brother, succeeds to the government of the Church, in conjunction with the apostles. He has been universally called [I]the Just[/I], from the days of the Lord down to the present time. For many bore the name of James; but this one was holy from his mother's womb. [COLOR=red]He drank no wine or [I]other[/I] intoxicating liquor,[URL="http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-08/footnote/fn121.htm#P12188_3575346"]2[/URL] nor did he eat flesh; no razor came upon his head; he did not anoint himself with oil, nor make use of the bath[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][COLOR=black]و لهذا عرف بانه نذير Nazarite فى طول حياته تمم شروط النذير المشار اليها سابقا فى سفر العدد الاصحاح السادس[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/hegesippus.html"][SIZE=5]http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/hegesippus.html[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5]و يقتبس ايضا جيروم نفس النص فى De Viris Illustribus (On Illustrious Men)[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]Chapter 2[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/2708.htm"][SIZE=5]http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/2708.htm[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5]و يسجل ايضا يوسيفوس المؤرخ و الكاهن اليهودى موت يعقوب اخو المخلص فى كتابه اثار(تحف) اليهود الفصل التاسع[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]Antiquities of the Jews[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]Chapter 9 - CONCERNING ALBINUS UNDER WHOSE PROCURATORSHIP JAMES WAS SLAIN; AS ALSO WHAT EDIFICES WERE BUILT BY AGRIPPA[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.studylight.org/his/bc/wfj/antiquities/view.cgi?book=20&chapter=9"][SIZE=5]http://www.studylight.org/his/bc/wfj/antiquities/view.cgi?book=20&chapter=9[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5]بنفس ما ذكرناه سابقا عن ايمانه بالمخلص يسوع المسيح الكلمة المساوى لله الاب فى الجوهر و الذات[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]و تنقل لنا الموسوعة الكثاوليكية عن تاريخ يوسابيوس القيصرى[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]St. James the Less, Bishop of Jerusalem, was a Nazarite, and performed with rigorous exactness all the ascetic practices enjoined by that rule of life[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10727a.htm"][SIZE=5]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10727a.htm[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5]و فى كتاب "يعقوب,اخو يسوع" للباحث ربرت ايسنمان[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]"James, Brother of Jesus" [/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]Book by Robert Eisenman [/SIZE] [SIZE=5] [SIZE=5]Book Report and Commentary by Barbara Schuknecht-Rodriguez[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]فى تعليقها تقول باربارا[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]James lived as a Nazarite under vows of purity and chastity. He opposed the [Roman] Establishment with its appointees while preaching to the people from the steps of the Temple which provoked the collaborating High Priesthood to plan and cause his murder[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.uhcg.org/HoI/James-Bro-of-Jesus.html"][SIZE=5]http://www.uhcg.org/HoI/James-Bro-of-Jesus.html[/SIZE][/URL] [/SIZE][SIZE=5]و يذكر موقع الارثوذكسية الشرقية ايضا فى تعريفه للقديس يعقوب اخو الرب[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]JAMES, surnamed the Just, was the brother of our Lord Jesus Christ. This is ordinarily interpreted to mean that he was the son of Alphaeus, and therefore a cousin-german of our Lord. After the Ascension the Apostles (according to Clement of Alexandria) made James Bishop of Jerusalem. And to James (as saith the Book of the Acts of the Apostles) special intelligence was sent by the Prince of the Apostles at the time the latter was delivered from prison by an Angel ; which things would seem to indicate the pre-eminent position he held in the Holy City. When in the Council of Jerusalem certain questions were mooted touching the Law and circumcision, James, following the opinion of Peter, addressed a discourse to the brethren, wherein he proved the call of the Gentiles, and commanded letters to be sent to such brethren as were absent, that they might take heed not to lay upon the Gentiles the yoke of the Law of Moses. It is of him that the Apostle Paul saith, writing to the Galatians : Other of the Apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother. According to Hegesippus, (whose account is preserved for us by the historian Eusebius,) he was a Nazarite from the womb, and so during his whole life never drank wine nor strong drink ; no razor came upon his head ; he anointed not himself with oil, nor did make use of public baths ; to him alone it was given to enter the holy place, for he wore the priestly linen ; and alone he entered into the sanctuary, where he was so continually on his knees asking forgiveness on behalf of the people, that his knees became hard like a camel's[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.westernorthodox.com/kalendar/0501.htm"][SIZE=5]http://www.westernorthodox.com/kalendar/0501.htm[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5]و الان نسأل الزميل من اين اتيت ان يعقوب كان ناصرى؟؟؟؟[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]لمن يريد ان يتعرف على النذير Nazarite بمعنى اسئمل[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]فى موسوعة ويكيبديا[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazirite"][SIZE=5]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazirite[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]فى القاموس الحر[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Nazirite"][SIZE=5]http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Nazirite[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]من التفسير الاسبوعى للتوراه[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.myjewishlearning.com/texts/Weekly_Torah_Commentary/naso_clal.htm"][SIZE=5]http://www.myjewishlearning.com/texts/Weekly_Torah_Commentary/naso_clal.htm[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]من الموسوعة الكاثوليكية[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10727a.htm"][SIZE=5]http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10727a.htm[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [SIZE=5]من الموسوعة اليهودية[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [URL="http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=142&letter=N"][SIZE=5]http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=142&letter=N[/SIZE][/URL] [SIZE=5]الان هل لدى الزميل المفلس دليل واحد على ان يعقوب اخو المخلص كان ناصرى Nazerene بعد ان اثبتنا له ان يعقوب اخو المخلص كان Nazarite ؟؟؟؟[/SIZE] [SIZE=5][/SIZE] [CENTER][SIZE=6][COLOR=red][B]فى انتظار الاجابة[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/CENTER] [/QUOTE]

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