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الرسالة: [QUOTE="Molka Molkan, post: 3223266, member: 79186"] [COLOR="Black"][FONT="Tahoma"][SIZE="4"][SIZE=4][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4][COLOR=Black][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4][COLOR=Black][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4]معلش عزيزي حارس العقيدة، في شوية كلام عايز أحطهم في الموضوع هنا للذكرى.. [/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][CENTER][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=5][COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black][COLOR=Blue]..( [/COLOR][COLOR=Red]5 [COLOR=Blue])[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=5][COLOR=Blue].. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][LEFT][SIZE=3][/SIZE]The enormity of the statement, [B]“I and the Father are one,”[/B] within the context of the Gospel of John is difficult to overstate. There are several reasons for this. First, this is a type of “I am” statement for Jesus, this time “we are.” There is a continued reference to the divine name of Jehovah God, I AM (see comments on 8:58). Second, there is a further divine claim in obvious allusion to the famous [I][FONT=Charis SIL]Shema[/FONT][/I] of Deuteronomy 6:4, “Hear O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” This was the monotheistic bedrock of the Jewish religion, that there was only one God. Yet Jesus has now included himself in this monotheistic confession. He does not mean that he has achieved some type of mystical unity with God that might be more at home with Hinduism. He is speaking of the very essence of his relationship with the Father, that there is a sameness about them. The theological math here is that 1 + 1 = 1 (cf. 1:1). And yet a third element in this should be noted. Jesus does not say, “I am the Father.” Although he makes a mighty claim here, he continues to maintain a certain level of distinction between the Father and himself. [URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1"][/URL] [SIZE=3][URL="http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1"][/URL]Bryant, B. H., & Krause, M. S. (1998). [I]John[/I]. The College Press NIV commentary (Jn 10:30). Joplin, Mo.: College Press Pub. Co. [/SIZE][RIGHT][SIZE=3][SIZE=4][COLOR=Black]الصراحة مش عارف، ألوّن هنا أية واسيب أية![/COLOR][/SIZE] [/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE][/RIGHT] [/LEFT] [/CENTER] [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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