لا يراه العالم ولا يعرفه...والمدلس على الريس

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لم ارى فى حياتى فى هذة الفترة القليلة الذى عملت فيها فى هذا المجال مدلسا اكثر من هذا

فكل المدلسين الذين رائينهم قد يكونوا مدلسين على قدهم
لكن هذة الشخصية يمارس التدليس على عينك يا تاجر بطرق لهلوانية فاقت خرافة القمر الىل اتشق بليل فى الخباثة

يستكمل طفلنا المراهق فى ممارسة الدجل والنصب العلنى على عقول المسلمين ويقول
2ـ الباركليت لايُرى

قالوا : قيل عن الروح القدس إن العالم لا يراه ولا يعرفه (رُوحُ الْحَقِّ الَّذِي لاَ يَسْتَطِيعُ الْعَالَمُ أَنْ يَقْبَلَهُ لأَنَّهُ لاَ يَرَاهُ وَلاَ يَعْرِفُهُ وَأَمَّا أَنْتُمْ فَتَعْرِفُونَهُ لأَنَّهُ مَاكِثٌ مَعَكُمْ وَيَكُونُ فِيكُمْ) يوحنا 17:14 وهذا ما لا ينطبق على رسول الإسلام ، لأنه كان منظوراً من الناس وكان يتعامل معهم ويعرفونه ويميزونه.
إجابة : من المهم عندما نقرأ فكر كاتب أن نتعرف على التعبيرات التي يستخدمها ومدلولاتها ،و لو نظرنا لمفهوم الرؤية والمعرفة عند يوحنا نجد أنه يقصد أحياناً الرؤية الإيمانية ( بصيرة القلب) أقرءوا مثلاً قوله
(كُلُّ مَنْ يَثْبُتُ فِيهِ لاَ يُخْطِئُ. كُلُّ مَنْ يُخْطِئُ لَمْ يُبْصِرْهُ وَلاَ عَرَفَهُ) 1يوحنا6:3
ولذلك فالذي لا يؤمن لا يسمع ولا يبصر ولا يفهم ، وهذا ما عبر به مؤلف انجيل متى
(مِنْ أَجْلِ هَذَا أُكَلِّمُهُمْ بِأَمْثَالٍ لأَنَّهُمْ مُبْصِرِينَ لاَ يُبْصِرُونَ وَسَامِعِينَ لاَ يَسْمَعُونَ وَلاَ يَفْهَمُونَ. فَقَدْ تَمَّتْ فِيهِمْ نُبُوَّةُ إِشَعْيَاءَ: تَسْمَعُونَ سَمْعاً وَلاَ تَفْهَمُونَ وَمُبْصِرِينَ تُبْصِرُونَ وَلاَ تَنْظُرُونَ) متى 13:13-14
وهكذا يسير المسلم بالفتونة والعضلات دون اى مرجعية لهذة الزبالات اللاهويتة
وقبل ان نشرح النص ابائيا وعلميا
نهرس طفلنا العزيز فى كلمتين قبل البدء فى كشف التدليس
سيدنا يسوع المسيح الهنا المبارك لم ينفى فقط ان العالم لا يعرف الروح ولا يراه
بل ان التلاميذ يعرفونه ويرونه
لانه ماكث معنا ويسكن فينا
فهل ابن امنة كان ماكث مع تلاميذ ابن الله؟؟؟؟؟
هل كان ابن امنة يسكن فى تلاميذ ابن الله؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
معرفتش تفلفص منها طبعا لانك انسان مدلس
نرجع للنقطة الاولى
ما معنى العالم لا يراه ولا يعرفه
اولا التدليس على القديس يوحنا/
النص كاملا
1 اُنْظُرُوا أَيَّةَ مَحَبَّةٍ أَعْطَانَا الآبُ حَتَّى نُدْعَى أَوْلاَدَ اللهِ! مِنْ أَجْلِ هذَا لاَ يَعْرِفُنَا الْعَالَمُ، لأَنَّهُ لاَ يَعْرِفُهُ.
2 أَيُّهَا الأَحِبَّاءُ، الآنَ نَحْنُ أَوْلاَدُ اللهِ، وَلَمْ يُظْهَرْ بَعْدُ مَاذَا سَنَكُونُ. وَلكِنْ نَعْلَمُ أَنَّهُ إِذَا أُظْهِرَ نَكُونُ مِثْلَهُ، لأَنَّنَا سَنَرَاهُ كَمَا هُوَ.
3 وَكُلُّ مَنْ عِنْدَهُ هذَا الرَّجَاءُ بِهِ، يُطَهِّرُ نَفْسَهُ كَمَا هُوَ طَاهِرٌ.
4 كُلُّ مَنْ يَفْعَلُ الْخَطِيَّةَ يَفْعَلُ التَّعَدِّيَ أَيْضًا. وَالْخَطِيَّةُ هِيَ التَّعَدِّي.
5 وَتَعْلَمُونَ أَنَّ ذَاكَ أُظْهِرَ لِكَيْ يَرْفَعَ خَطَايَانَا، وَلَيْسَ فِيهِ خَطِيَّةٌ.
6 كُلُّ مَنْ يَثْبُتُ فِيهِ لاَ يُخْطِئُ. كُلُّ مَنْ يُخْطِئُ لَمْ يُبْصِرْهُ وَلاَ عَرَفَهُ.

والرسول يوحنا نفسه يرد عليك
انه كيف عرفنا ابن الله
بروحه الساكن فينا
وَمَنْ يَحْفَظْ وَصَايَاهُ يَثْبُتْ فِيهِ وَهُوَ فِيهِ. وَبِهذَا نَعْرِفُ أَنَّهُ يَثْبُتُ فِينَا: مِنَ الرُّوحِ الَّذِي أَعْطَانَا

فالروح الذى بداخلنا هو الذى يجعلنا نثبت فى المسيح
ومن يثبت فى المسيح لا يفعل الخطية
والثبات فى المسيح من الروح الذى اعطانا

اما من يفعل الخطية فلم يثبت فى المسيح ولم يعرفه ولم يراه
ازاى
بالروح الذى اعطانا
فهل تيقنت الان انك مدلس ومهرج
ادلتى/
Abides in this verse describes the mutual indwelling of Jesus and the Christian. The believer abides in Christ by keeping His commandments. Christ abides in the obedient believer as One who is “at home” with that believer. Jesus spoke of this mutual abiding in John 15:4, 5, 7. This is evidenced further by the reference to the Spirit being given to the Christian (4:1–3). Proof of one’s salvation is obedience (the basis of one’s salvation is the grace of God in Christ, and the medium of salvation is faith, Eph. 2:8, 9). This is not to say that one is not redeemed if we do not judge their actions to be in conformity to Christ—only that obedience indicates that a new life created by God and lack of obedience causes questions about whether this new life is present. This looks back at the Upper Room promises in John 14—16. This verse connects this paragraph with the previous section by the use of Spirit, a reference to the Holy Spirit in contrast to the spirits of the false teachers.
http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1
http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1Radmacher, E. D., Allen, R. B., & House, H. W. (1999). Nelson's new illustrated Bible commentary (1 Jn 3:24). Nashville: T. Nelson Publishers.



And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. The subject of confidence is introduced by the statement that assurance of God’s abiding in us comes by the Holy Spirit. All believers have the Holy Spirit. He is the one who guides them into all truth and enables them to discern error.
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http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1MacDonald, W., & Farstad, A. (1997, c1995). Believer's Bible Commentary : Old and New Testaments (1 Jn 3:24). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.


His will for us involves trusting in Him, loving one another, and in general, living the Christian life (“abiding” means living), and enjoying the gift of the Holy Spirit (especially in our confrontation with the false prophets, to which subject he now turns).
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http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1KJV Bible commentary. 1997, c1994 (2636). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.



John’s expression live in him and he in them refers to the union the believer has with Christ by virtue of having become a child of God. Those who have this union have the Holy Spirit in them and he enables them to exercise love.
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http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1Adeyemo, T. (2006). Africa Bible commentary (1560). Nairobi, Kenya; Grand Rapids, MI.: WordAlive Publishers; Zondervan.



We know by the Spirit which he hath given us that we dwell in God, and God in us. It was not by conjecture or inference that Christians of old knew they were in the favour of God, it was by the testimony of God’s own Spirit in their hearts; and this testimony was not given in a transient manner, but was constant and abiding while they continued under the influence of that faith that worketh by love. Every good man is a temple of the Holy Ghost, and wherever he is, he is both light and power. By his power he works; by his light he makes both himself and his work known. Peace of conscience and joy in the Holy Ghost must proceed from the indwelling of that Holy Spirit; and those who have these blessings must know that they have them, for we cannot have heavenly peace and heavenly joy without knowing that we have them. But this Spirit in the soul of a believer is not only manifest by its effects, but it bears its own witness to its own indwelling. So that a man not only knows that he has this Spirit from the fruits of the Spirit, but he knows that he has it from its own direct witness. It may be said, "How can these things be?" And it may be answered, By the power, light, and mercy of God. But that such things are, the ******ures uniformly attest, and the experience of the whole genuine Church of Christ, and of every truly converted soul, sufficiently proves. As the wind bloweth where it listeth, and we cannot tell whence it cometh and whither it goeth, so is every one that is born of the Spirit: the thing is certain, and fully known by its effects; but how this testimony is given and confirmed is inexplicable. Every good man feels it, and knows he is of God by the Spirit which God has given him.
http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1
http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1Clarke, A. (1999). Clarke's Commentary: First John (electronic ed.). Logos Library System; Clarke's Commentaries (1 Jn 3:24). Albany, OR: Ages Software.



منظرك بقة وحش صح؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
ليه بتدلس
هو انت مفكر انك هتتدخل جنة الحور بالتدليس والنصب
لو كان عندك اصلا معتقد محترم مكنتش لجات للتدليس
لكن لانك فارغ المحتوى والفكر بتدلس علينا لتستمد شريعة من لاهوتنا الراقى


نرجع لما قاله السيد المسيح فى انجيل يوحنا كاملا لكشف المدلس على الريس
16 وَأَنَا أَطْلُبُ مِنَ الآبِ فَيُعْطِيكُمْ مُعَزِّيًا آخَرَ لِيَمْكُثَ مَعَكُمْ إِلَى الأَبَدِ،
17 رُوحُ الْحَقِّ الَّذِي لاَ يَسْتَطِيعُ الْعَالَمُ أَنْ يَقْبَلَهُ، لأَنَّهُ لاَ يَرَاهُ وَلاَ يَعْرِفُهُ، وَأَمَّا أَنْتُمْ فَتَعْرِفُونَهُ لأَنَّهُ مَاكِثٌ مَعَكُمْ وَيَكُونُ فِيكُمْ.

والنص واضح لكل كنيسة المسيح
لكن اولاد الافاعى الكدابين لم يجدوا فى كلام سيدهم يسوع المسيح ما قاله هذا المسحور
فاخذوا يدلسون ليجدوا شرعية لدين الذباب وسبحانه لم يكن له صاحبة ولا ولد وسط ايمانا القويم
لكن متقلقش
بالشلوط وهتترمى براه
لان ايمانا القويم قادر ان يهدم كل فكر المدلسين والكدابين اولاد الافاعى

كلام المسيح لتلاميذه الاطهار المشمولين بنعمة روح الله واضح
فهو يتكلم عن المعزى روح الله القدوس الذى يسمكث معنا الى الابد
صفاته
1-لا يراه العالم ولا يعرفه
لسبين
-انه روح الله والروح لا يدرك
-ان قبوله مرهون بالايمان بابن الله
وفى لغة القديس يوحنا يفرق بين المؤمنين وبين غير المؤمنين باطلاق كلمة العالم على غير المؤمنين مقارنة بينا
لاَ يَقْدِرُ الْعَالَمُ أَنْ يُبْغِضَكُمْ، وَلكِنَّهُ يُبْغِضُنِي أَنَا، لأَنِّي أَشْهَدُ عَلَيْهِ أَنَّ أَعْمَالَهُ شِرِّيرَةٌ
اَلْحَقَّ الْحَقَّ أَقُولُ لَكُمْ: إِنَّكُمْ سَتَبْكُونَ وَتَنُوحُونَ وَالْعَالَمُ يَفْرَحُ. أَنْتُمْ سَتَحْزَنُونَ، وَلكِنَّ حُزْنَكُمْ يَتَحَوَّلُ إِلَى فَرَحٍ
فالعالم لا يراه ماديا لانه روح
ولا يراه معنويا لانه لا يقبله لانه لم يؤمن بابن الله الوحيد

لكن...........
نحن المؤمنين (تلاميذ السيد)
نراه ونعرفه لانه ماكث معنا وفينا

فهل حرف واحد من هذة المواصفات تنطبق على اللى ميتسماش سفاح العرب؟؟؟؟؟
العالم لم يقدر ان يقبله؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
العالم لم يراه ولم يعرفه؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
ماكث معنا وساكن فينا؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟


انها السفالة الاسلامية وممارسة الدعارة الفكرية على عقول المسلمين دون رادع

ولنثبت كلامنا بالعلمية والاكاديمية


The Holy Spirit is called the Spirit of truth because His teaching is true and He glorifies Christ who is the truth. The world cannot receive the Holy Spirit because it cannot see Him. Unbelievers want to see before they will believe—although they believe in wind and electricity, and yet they cannot see them. The unsaved do not know or understand the Holy Spirit. He may convict them of sin, and yet they do not know that it is He. The disciples knew the Holy Spirit. They had known Him to work in their own lives and had seen Him working through the Lord Jesus.

“He dwells with you, and will be in you.” Before Pentecost, the Holy Spirit came upon men and dwelt with them.
http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1
http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1MacDonald, W., & Farstad, A. (1997, c1995). Believer's Bible Commentary : Old and New Testaments (Jn 14:17). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.



Spirit of truth. The Helper is the Holy Spirit (16:13). The world cannot receive the Spirit. This Spirit would have a twofold ministry. He would dwell with them (be in their midst), and He would be in them (dwell within).http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1
http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1KJV Bible commentary. 1997, c1994 (2111). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.



but (omit) ye know him] On the other hand, the disciples had so far realised their fellowship with Christ, that of them it could be said, even as they looked with uncertainty to the future, “ye know (γινώσκετε) Him,” with a knowledge inchoate indeed, yet real. For in Christ the Spirit was truly present already, if not in His characteristic manifestation; just as Christ is present now with His Church in the Spirit. In this sense it could be said of the Spirit, even before Pentecost, He abideth by you and is in you, according to a reading which has strong support. http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftn1
http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref1The Gospel according to St. John Introduction and notes on the Authorized version. 1908. Greek text and "Revised version" on opposite pages.; Edited by Arthur Westcott. (B. F. Westcott & A. Westcott, Ed.) (206). London: J. Murray.


اغسطين

We have here, at all events, the Holy Spirit in the Trinity whom the catholic faith acknowledges to be consubstantial and coeternal with the Father and the Son. Tractates on the Gospel of John 74.1.21
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21 CCL 36:512; NPNF 1 7:333.

http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref2Elowsky, J. C. (2007). John 11-21. Ancient Christian Commentary on ******ure NT 4b (139). Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press.

البابا اثناسيوس

The Lord called the Spirit “Spirit of truth” and “Paraclete,” showing that the Triad22 is complete in him. In him the Word makes glorious the creation and, by bestowing on it divine life and sonship, draws it to the Father. But that which joins creation to the Word cannot belong to the creatures. And that which bestows sonship upon the creation could not be alien from the Son. For we should have otherwise to seek another spirit, so that by him this Spirit might be joined to the Word. But that would be absurd. The Spirit, therefore, does not belong to things originated. He pertains to the Godhead of the Father, and in him the Word makes things originated divine. But he in whom creation is made divine cannot be outside the Godhead of the Father.23 Letter to Serapion 1.25.24
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22 Gk triada.

23 Cyril makes a similar argument for the Spirit’s divinity in his Commentary on the Gospel of John 9.1 (LF 48:303–4).

24 MFC 3:106*; PG 26:589.

http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref4Elowsky, J. C. (2007). John 11-21. Ancient Christian Commentary on ******ure NT 4b (139). Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press.

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باسليوس الكبير
Only the Spirit can adequately glorify the Lord. “He will glorify me,”28 not as a creature, but as the Spirit of truth, since he himself is truth shining brightly. He is the Spirit of wisdom, revealing Christ, the power of God and the wisdom of God, in his own greatness. As the Paraclete he reflects the goodness of the Paraclete (the Father)29 who sent him, and his own dignity reveals the majesty of him from whom he proceeded.… If we are illumined by divine power and fix our eyes on the beauty of the image of the invisible God, and [if we] through the image are led up to the indescribable beauty of its source, it is because we have been inseparably joined to the Spirit of knowledge. He gives those who love the vision of truth the power that enables them to see the image. And this power is himself. He does not reveal it to them from outside sources but leads them to knowledge personally: “No one knows the Father except the Son,”30 and “No one can say ‘Jesus is Lord’ except in the Holy Spirit.”31 Notice that it does not say through the Spirit but in the Spirit. It also says, “God is Spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth,”32 and “in your light do we see light,”33 through the illumination of the Holy Spirit, “the true light that enlightens every one who comes into the world.”34 He reveals the glory of the Only Begotten in himself, and he gives true worshipers the knowledge of God in himself. The way to divine knowledge ascends from one Spirit through the one Son to the one Father. On the Holy Spirit 18.46–47.35
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28 Jn 16:14.

29 Basil leaves ambiguous to whom “tou othen proēlthen” in the Greek refers. It could be the Father or the Son. See note 7 in NPNF 2 8:29.

30 Mt 11:27.

31 1 Cor 12:3.

32 Jn 4:24.

33 Ps 36:9 (35:10 lxx).

34 Jn 1:9.

35 OHS 73–75*. In On the Holy Spirit 19.48 (OHS 76), Basil further notes how the Spirit is given the same title here as the Father and the Son have, demonstrating his equality with them. See also Tertullian. Against Praxeas 9, 25.

http://www.arabchurch.com/forums/#_ftnref9Elowsky, J. C. (2007). John 11-21. Ancient Christian Commentary on ******ure NT 4b (139). Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press.



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